Forum: Banning & Suspensions

[blownsgt]

this forum used to be awesome it had a good amount of people posting tech stuff and info about events going on all over

What happened was it because amy is gone? is it because all the real people got banned or quit coming here because of restrictions?

[motorjock205]

this forum used to be awesome it had a good amount of people posting tech stuff and info about events going on all over

What happened was it because amy is gone? is it because all the real people got banned or quit coming here because of restrictions?

 

 

There is still good stuff being posted, just scattered out a little more now than it was in the past....a lot more diversity....keep looking, I'm sure you'll find what you are looking for...

[sportscars]

Lots of people keep making comments about how so many people have been "banned" here. Care to make a list of exactly who has been banned (and why)???

 

I can think of about four over the last 2 years. I'm sure I dont know of everyone who has been banned, but I have seen people outright insult and even threaten other members and even Shelby employees and they were not banned.

 

Look at it this way. This forum is really just a virtual "store" for Shelby. If you owned a hot dog store, for instance, how long would you put up with someone coming in and telling you that your hot dogs sucked and that your doing this wrong and that wrong? How many days would you let them come into your store and tell all the other customers that Roush makes better hot dogs. How long would you let them harrass and demean other customers before you "banned" them? Even if they bought a hot dog every day I think they wouldn't be long for your store. Same thing here. Shelby ownes this website, just like they own the Shelby store in Vegas. People tend to get "internet brave" and say thing they would never say in person.

 

Seriously, correct me if I am wrong. I'd love to see a list of the banned people. I think if we knew the truth about those who have been banned and we looked at it from a different perspective, we might not be so quick to play the "banned" card.

 

Just my $.02

 

 

[DutchGT500]

I can fully understand that some people in the end could be banned when they put any insulting words on the forum. But after a fair warning IMO. I think this is the case on this forum. I don't think anybody is banned at the spot when they say that some ordered parts are not delivered. The sparesome people that are banned from this forum did some more then one single topic or post. And with all forums, after a couple of years they die out and only the diehards stay.

[robertlane]

Lots of people keep making comments about how so many people have been "banned" here. Care to make a list of exactly who has been banned (and why)???

Seriously, correct me if I am wrong. I'd love to see a list of the banned people. I think if we knew the truth about those who have been banned and we looked at it from a different perspective, we might not be so quick to play the "banned" card.

 

 

Here's the list of banned and suspended accounts since June 2005. There might be a few more in each category that were missed during the upgrades over the past 5 years, but nothing of significance.

 

The below lists, which cover an almost 5-year period go to show that neither StangsUnleashed or Team Shelby banned or suspended that many accounts.

 

25 June 2005 to 03 May 2010:

Accounts banned since June 2005: 22. 8 of these were multiple accounts by the same users.

Accounts suspended since June 2005: 48. Some of these were multiple accounts by the same users. This figure includes spam.

[DutchGT500]

Here you go. Thanks, Robert. People are making an elephant from a mosquito (Dutch expression translated in English).

[JeffIsHereToo]

This is more of the "squeaky wheel gets the grease" type stuff! You NEVER hear from the masses that have never been suspended or banned only those that have. No one posts "I wasn't banned today!". Same with the store, not that I don't think there are areas to improve upon, but it was only after a few negative posts did people post the good. That said we have a saying in the Navy "One oh shit ruins a hundred atta boys". In the end all a business owner can do is deal as best they can with the MUCH publicized exceptions and hope in the end it all comes out ok.

[bimrock]

When I read the topic i was excited. I thought some new company named Banning had some great new shock absorber for my Shelby. Silly me.

[sportscars]

Careful, Bimrock. Posts like that will get you banned

[tekheavy]

When I read the topic i was excited. I thought some new company named Banning had some great new shock absorber for my Shelby. Silly me.

[DDT]

Actually "Banning" is a small desert town between San Bernardino and Palm Springs.............

 

Famous for Speed Traps and driver liscence "Suspensions"...............

[Grabber]

Robert,

 

When can I have my ban stick back?

 

I promise to be a good Grabber.

[kahmann]

^Rob has been banned from banning?

[tpow96]

OK, this probably only adds fuel to an unecessary fire probably set off by someone who wanted to lob

a thread grenade and see what happens, but my curiosity got the better of me.

 

What is the difference between a suspension and a ban? I ask because by definition one seems temporary,

but I've read one person state they have been "unbanned". Perhaps he was mistaken.

 

Who has the authority to ban/suspend, and what specific criteria is used to make that decision?

 

I put these out so perhaps I can learn something significant from this topic. Otherwise it seems inane

because we would only seem to read from those who could respond (who are not banned or suspended),

rather than those who had transgressed and now cannot respond. Then again, maybe those few who were

allowed back can chime in.

 

-Tom

[cobrafan]

 

 

 

Look at it this way. This forum is really just a virtual "store" for Shelby. If you owned a hot dog store,

Does this analogy work with Double Cheeseburgers as well?

[kahmann]

OK, this probably only adds fuel to an unecessary fire probably set off by someone who wanted to lob

a thread grenade and see what happens, but my curiosity got the better of me.

 

What is the difference between a suspension and a ban? I ask because by definition one seems temporary,

but I've read one person state they have been "unbanned". Perhaps he was mistaken.

 

Who has the authority to ban/suspend, and what specific criteria is used to make that decision?

 

I put these out so perhaps I can learn something significant from this topic. Otherwise it seems inane

because we would only seem to read from those who could respond (who are not banned or suspended),

rather than those who had transgressed and now cannot respond. Then again, maybe those few who were

allowed back can chime in.

 

-Tom

 

I'd guess that the OP is one of those few, considering the low post count and the extremely recent 'join date', coupled with the thread asking about banning/suspensions.

 

 

 

[Grabber]

OK, this probably only adds fuel to an unecessary fire probably set off by someone who wanted to lob

a thread grenade and see what happens, but my curiosity got the better of me.

 

What is the difference between a suspension and a ban? I ask because by definition one seems temporary,

but I've read one person state they have been "unbanned". Perhaps he was mistaken.

 

Who has the authority to ban/suspend, and what specific criteria is used to make that decision?

 

I put these out so perhaps I can learn something significant from this topic. Otherwise it seems inane

because we would only seem to read from those who could respond (who are not banned or suspended),

rather than those who had transgressed and now cannot respond. Then again, maybe those few who were

allowed back can chime in.

 

-Tom

 

 

Only the big boss's can ban or un ban. Not me.

 

Some folks have been re-instated because they asked for a second chance. The realized that they may of acted in a way that they perhaps shouldn't have.

 

Suspensions usually do not work...but they have been tried with some success.

[Grabber]

I'd guess that the OP is one of those few, considering the low post count and the extremely recent 'join date', coupled with the thread asking about banning/suspensions.

 

 

 

 

He's a paid member with a valid question.

[DubbsFaris]

Does this analogy work with Double Cheeseburgers as well?

 

 

 

No, the difference is the hot dog stand would make money....

 

BTW- I ate at a BK today, thought of you, and ordered a doublecheeseburger, but I ordered the big expensive one that makes you money, not the charity one...

[shelbydream1]

WHOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

 

 

I didn't get banned today!!! :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: (sorry Jeff)

[kahmann]

He's a paid member with a valid question.

 

I'm not questioning his credibility or right to ask a question. Just pointing out what may not have been obvious to the poster before me. In my opinion, the ban stick has been used far too much around here lately for seemingly unjust reasons.

[DutchGT500]

I doubt that.

[ilmor]

this forum used to be awesome it had a good amount of people posting tech stuff and info about events going on all over

What happened was it because amy is gone? is it because all the real people got banned or quit coming here because of restrictions?

 

Were you banned or suspended? I'm just curious, because I notice you joined on 4/24 and have only 5 posts.

[tekheavy]

Were you banned or suspended? I'm just curious, because I notice you joined on 4/24 and have only 5 posts.

I'd assume he was banned and then created a new screen name. A lot of that going on lately.

[tpow96]

I'm not questioning his credibility or right to ask a question. Just pointing out what may not have been obvious to the poster before me. In my opinion, the ban stick has been used far too much around here lately for seemingly unjust reasons.

 

 

I was very aware of the low post # and recent join date of the original topic starter, hence my suspicions to

the intent. But giving some benefit of doubt, the original questions could be interpreted as legitimate especially

if he/she is one who was banned and returned. (It could also be the case of someone who just read a lot

and never joined.) Plus, if there is a feeling out there of banning for "seemingly unjust reasons" by folk in this

forum with a high post # and long ago join date that I respect, then this discussion is a good one.

 

That now leads me back to my questions: who specifically can ban and what is the written criteria for banning?

 

-Tom

[robertlane]

I posted the suspended and banned numbers to show that we're not fond or madly in love with either. The numbers over the course of five years speaks for itself. . .we're not in the banning or suspension business.

 

SAI are the only ones who can do either.

 

Remember that Team Shelby is part of a corporation "Shelby American" - so that fact that we have open forums like these are awesome in itself.

[Akos (AJ)]

 

Remember that Team Shelby is part of a corporation "Shelby American" - so that fact that we have open forums like these are awesome in itself.

 

You are right, it is awesome that you have this site. It's a great tool for Shelby to keep its thumbs on the pulse of their core customers.

Any smart business owner or executive would welcome the comments about their products or services whether they are positive or negative. It helps knowing what are you doing right and also what are your "opportunities for improvement".

The problem was in certain cases in the past, that criticism (of both Shelby products or service) was considered hostile and was taken personally when they were actually intended as constructive. That said, obviously offensive language should not be allowed and can never be accepted as constructive. But I'm almost sure that the majority of the banned/suspended members' posts were not offensive in nature. Simply they were saying things that Amy didn't want on this forum.

That was my case too. I'm an ex employee of Shelby, I do know about most of the scheletons in the closet. When Amy banned me it was simply because she was worried that I wouldn't stick to the her official version of the SA stories.

After Amy left, I asked Robert nicely to "unban" me, and he did. Thanks again Robert!

As far as your comments on anything that Shelby does as a company, whether good or bad, you should let them know about it. I know I will. Because I believe that the guys and girls at the helm will use that information to better the company. It's a very competitive world out there and I hope that Shelby American realizes that it's not enough to put the 6 famous letters on random stuff to be able to charge a premium for it, but that their products and services have to be a better value to their customers.

OK, now I'm off my soapbox

AJ

[blownsgt]

AJ you always have the voice of good reason you rock!!! Thw words and insight that few really knew the truth about!

[Akos (AJ)]

AJ you always have the voice of good reason you rock!!! Thw words and insight that few really knew the truth about!

 

 

[William Rodgers]

I have been a member for a long time and do not recall anyone that added value getting banned. I do recall during the initial Merge many did not accept each other, many of the immature seem to be gone, but I am not sure they were banned, I for one do not miss them.

 

I think the Forum is less active because the Shelby name has been back for years now, it will never be the same as when Shelby first came back.

 

To me this is still the most informative professional forum, I put it right up there with Pelican Parts, my old Porsche Forum, much better than your typical Mustang forum.