backafter20 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I haven't visited Kelly Blue Book's website very often, but I checked to see if they considered the Shelby element in our SGTs. I was surprised that they did include a Shelby package to check off under the GT section to take into account our car's special heritage. I was disappointed that it only added $1700 to the value of my car, but what irritated me most was the Camaro adds! From the moment I clicked on Ford, the website was a complete barrage of Camaro adds, saying how it just left the Mustang and Challenger in the dust. It actually added to the time it took me to get the quote because the site was so busy adding fancy animated Camaro adds. Is this normal? It felt like I was in enemy territory or something, and didn't add to my trust of the site. I didn't buy my SGT for resale value, and am not planning on it being worth a fortune some day, but I would have expected a better return on the Shelby investment. BS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stngfever Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Using NADA shows $10k difference between SGT & GT. Mine wans't bought as an investment. I prefer to on good weather days, trips, etc... and achieve many smiles per gallon in doing so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greaser Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ive always used NADA as thats what most dealers and banks use i think KBB is out of there mind on some values and way off from what NADA has usualy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greaser Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ok i just check NADA and they dont have the SGT on there anymore WTF! they dont have any Shelbys for 2007 and no SGTs at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ok i just check NADA and they dont have the SGT on there anymore WTF! they dont have any Shelbys for 2007 and no SGTs at all A couple of weeks ago, my bank used NADA and the Shelby GT was an option. They must've updated their database and missed it. How pathetic is that?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I haven't visited Kelly Blue Book's website very often, but I checked to see if they considered the Shelby element in our SGTs. I was surprised that they did include a Shelby package to check off under the GT section to take into account our car's special heritage. I was disappointed that it only added $1700 to the value of my car, but what irritated me most was the Camaro adds! From the moment I clicked on Ford, the website was a complete barrage of Camaro adds, saying how it just left the Mustang and Challenger in the dust. It actually added to the time it took me to get the quote because the site was so busy adding fancy animated Camaro adds. Is this normal? It felt like I was in enemy territory or something, and didn't add to my trust of the site. I didn't buy my SGT for resale value, and am not planning on it being worth a fortune some day, but I would have expected a better return on the Shelby investment. BS? You have spyware on your PC hence all of the camaro crap... Go here for FREE spyware and virus protection: http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download These guys are legit. Beware of other free software that actually adds spyware. Good Luck !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backafter20 Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 A chevrolet.trojan? Ha Ha. I wouldn't put it past them. Really though, the KBB site was just in your face with the camaro ads. Just obnixious. Or maybe it was just me. Love the avatar, rush_junky. I'm a fan as well, at least of the older classics. Too bad you didn't end up with SGT2112? A classic car with a classic CSM? I'd have loved that, but I got 406 instead. Not that I would trade it for anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greaser Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 You have spyware on your PC hence all of the camaro crap... Go here for FREE spyware and virus protection: http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download These guys are legit. Beware of other free software that actually adds spyware. Good Luck !! i know off topic but +100000 on avast i havnt had a virus since i added it 3 years ago and it FREE. :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stngfever Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ok i just check NADA and they dont have the SGT on there anymore WTF! they dont have any Shelbys for 2007 and no SGTs at all Strange, check out this link: http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5006-0-0-0&l=1&w=21&p=1&f=5012&m=1065&c=15&da=-1&y=2007&da-1 SGT is listed, however, if you browse to nada home page, then drill down, SGT doesn't show up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpow96 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 When I did my research before purchasing my SGT last August, I found the SGT package added about 5K to the price of an equivalent (mileage/condition) loaded Mustang GT. Of course, the value of any car is a very subjective affair, and I have no doubt that these cars will continue to depreciate for a long while. But it will always command a nice premium over the Mustang GT as long as we keep their condition top notch. -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitch43 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 On the NADA site, if you click on the 2008 model year and select the SGT option, it takes you to the GT 500 page for both the coupe and vert. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Rodgers Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Give it more time, I certainly did not buy this car as an investment, but think the premium we paid will be made up in resale value in as little as 5 years. Further down the road the difference will be more than the premium, I would bet on it. Think about it, a new Mustang GT today cost as much as I paid for my Shelby GT with the similar options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springer Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 $36,850 - that is what NADA lists as retail on my 2008 Shelby GT convertible with 2,200 miles. When researching your car, they do have a box where you can check-off Shelby GT, then continue to the next page where you may check-off options relative to your car. NADA still lists the SGT for those that missed it. Now the SGT/SC, that is missing for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greaser Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 $36,850 - that is what NADA lists as retail on my 2008 Shelby GT convertible with 2,200 miles. When researching your car, they do have a box where you can check-off Shelby GT, then continue to the next page where you may check-off options relative to your car. NADA still lists the SGT for those that missed it. Now the SGT/SC, that is missing for sure. http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2007/Ford/Mustang nope not for the 07 they dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springer Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 The 07's are missing alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesdream Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 You have spyware on your PC hence all of the camaro crap... Go here for FREE spyware and virus protection: http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download These guys are legit. Beware of other free software that actually adds spyware. Good Luck !! Sorry, I have to reply so I can find this later through search. When my URLs clear I loose my quick go to option. Thanks for the tip : ) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 You have spyware on your PC hence all of the camaro crap... Go here for FREE spyware and virus protection: http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download These guys are legit. Beware of other free software that actually adds spyware. Good Luck !! Are you being facetious? For others, what's happening is these sites and advertisers set cookies in your browser, some even in the Flash cache, to better direct ads to you. For example since I have visited a number of mustang sites when I am on other web sites that use custom banner ads I get car or mustang site ads. In the case of the camaro GM probably contracted with the ad company to show their ads to any user that had visited the Ford site through looking for the Ford cookie. Advertisers are getting smarter and targeting ads to you based upon what they think you're preferences are. Some think that's good, getting ads you might be interested in, but others think it's an invasion of privacy. But what ever the case you don't have a virus....at least not one that show's Camaro ads! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Are you being facetious? For others, what's happening is these sites and advertisers set cookies in your browser, some even in the Flash cache, to better direct ads to you. For example since I have visited a number of mustang sites when I am on other web sites that use custom banner ads I get car or mustang site ads. In the case of the camaro GM probably contracted with the ad company to show their ads to any user that had visited the Ford site through looking for the Ford cookie. Advertisers are getting smarter and targeting ads to you based upon what they think you're preferences are. Some think that's good, getting ads you might be interested in, but others think it's an invasion of privacy. But what ever the case you don't have a virus....at least not one that show's Camaro ads! LOL! Uhmmm Jeff, Spyware is used for advertising...as are the cookies that you mentioned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware Regards, Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 When you add up the actual value of the parts that Shelby added to the Shelby GT and take into account the loss for use and wear, I wouldn't expect a Mustang GT in identical condition to yield a whole lot less than a Shelby GT. While the name is worth a lot to us, NADA and KBB couldn't care less when dealing with a 2 or 3 year old Mustang equipped with a handful of typical bolt-ons. Just because some of us paid the $10k markup for the Shelby GT package, it certainly doesn't make the car worth $10k more than a comparable Mustang GT of the same vintage. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Uhmmm Jeff, Spyware is used for advertising...as are the cookies that you mentioned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware Regards, Ed Ed, I understand that, and you are right and right to be concerned, but you're confusing legitimate targeted advertising for Spyware that will advertise things like porn sites, more fake anti-spyware tools, and such and for sure doesn't do GM Camaro advertising. Contextual advertising Many advertising networks display graphical or text-only ads that correspond to the keywords of an Internet search or to the content of the page on which the ad is shown. These ads are believed to have a greater chance of attracting a user, because they tend to share a similar context as the user's search query. For example, a search query for "flowers" might return an advertisement for a florist's website. Another newer technique is embedding keyword hyperlinks in an article which are sponsored by an advertiser. When a user follows the link, they are sent to a sponsor's website. Behavioral targeting In addition to contextual targeting, online advertising can be targeted based on a user's past clickstream. For example, if a user is known to have recently visited a number of automotive shopping / comparison sites based on clickstream analysis enabled by cookies stored on the user's computer, that user can then be served auto-related ads when they visit other, non-automotive sites. Semantic advertising Semantic advertising applies semantic analysis techniques to web pages. The process is meant to accurately interpret and classify the meaning and/or main subject of the page and then populate it with targeted advertising spots. By closely linking content to advertising, it is assumed that the viewer will be more likely to show an interest (i.e., through engagement) in the advertised product or service. I don't want to take this thread too far off too long but this is what I do for a living, in fact I recently interviewed for a Product Manager job a McAfee, and while I don't debate the need for protection, unless you use a Mac, but this just isn't one of those times. IMHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewheels Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 The reality is that nada and kbb don't buy cars and when you use their prices to tell the dealer what you want for your trade they pull out their books which always seems to have an even lower value for some reason. I had a FORD dealer tell me not to long ago my car is worth $20k as a trade-in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Ed, I understand that, and you are right and right to be concerned, but you're confusing legitimate targeted advertising for Spyware that will advertise things like porn sites, more fake anti-spyware tools, and such and for sure doesn't do GM Camaro advertising. Contextual advertising Many advertising networks display graphical or text-only ads that correspond to the keywords of an Internet search or to the content of the page on which the ad is shown. These ads are believed to have a greater chance of attracting a user, because they tend to share a similar context as the user's search query. For example, a search query for "flowers" might return an advertisement for a florist's website. Another newer technique is embedding keyword hyperlinks in an article which are sponsored by an advertiser. When a user follows the link, they are sent to a sponsor's website. Behavioral targeting In addition to contextual targeting, online advertising can be targeted based on a user's past clickstream. For example, if a user is known to have recently visited a number of automotive shopping / comparison sites based on clickstream analysis enabled by cookies stored on the user's computer, that user can then be served auto-related ads when they visit other, non-automotive sites. Semantic advertising Semantic advertising applies semantic analysis techniques to web pages. The process is meant to accurately interpret and classify the meaning and/or main subject of the page and then populate it with targeted advertising spots. By closely linking content to advertising, it is assumed that the viewer will be more likely to show an interest (i.e., through engagement) in the advertised product or service. I don't want to take this thread too far off too long but this is what I do for a living, in fact I recently interviewed for a Product Manager job a McAfee, and while I don't debate the need for protection, unless you use a Mac, but this just isn't one of those times. IMHO! blah blah blah....get spyware and virus protection and be done with it....there is no need to understand all of the nuances.... IMHO avast is legit, effective, and free; it keeps my PC clean. I was merely making a suggestion to folks. Take it for what its worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpow96 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Back on topic... I happen to completely agree with Ken and Mike on this. For values, I certainly wouldn't trust a dealer on trade in, nor an owner who has sentimental attachment to the brand (that's most of us). Plus I'm not exactly sure of the point for most of us that are not selling our cars: they are going to depreciate for a good long while. If you do intend to sell/buy a SGT, I would go with people spending real dollars and research auction sites. That's what I did last year. If this is an excercise on what we expect future values to be after the bulk of depreciation ends, then I'd consider the 1993 SVT Cobra as a comparable example. -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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