BLOWN Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I hope they get this figured out real fast.US did not take it as serious as they should have.What am I going to do know that we wont be able to go to the bathroom the last Hr before we land. I might have to skip that dinner on the plane. Airport security ramped up after botched attack Suspect's dad alerted U.S. to concerns but son was not put on 'no-fly list' getCSS("3088867")Video Suspect charged<BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: NBC's John Yang reports on the attempted bombing and the U.S. investigation into the suspect's past.Nightly News getCSS("3088867")Video Thwarted plot prompts tighter airport security<BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: The impact of the Christmas Day terrorism attempt is already being felt at the nation's airports, where new security procedures are in place. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.Nightly News getCSS("3088867")Video: Security More videoU.S. charges suspect in foiled jet attack<BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was arrested shortly after Northwest Flight 253 landed in Detroit and is now charged with trying to destroy the plane. NBC's John Yang reports.Officials probe suspect's possible terror tiesThwarted plot prompts tighter airport securityDid terror suspect fall through cracks?NBC: Bomb suspect's father warned authoritiesgetCSS("3053751")Breaking news alerts (about 1 per day) <BR itxtvisited="1">Click here to sign up or text NEWS to MSNBC (67622). Find more alerts at alerts.msnbc.com getCSS("3053751") Newsweek: More on global terrorismWill Holder Probe on CIA Detainee Abuse Fall Flat?Terror Watch: Unraveling the Flight 447 MysteryObama Faces Friendly Fire Over Terror PoliciesDid High-Value Detainee Commit Suicide in Libya?Has the Leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq Been Captured?Report: Detainees to Be Treated Like AnimalsRed Cross: What Did U.S. Do With Terror Suspects?U.S. Keeps Eye on Pakistani Taliban ThreatsMexico: Why Is U.S. Backing Away From Gun Ban?Terror Watch: Al-Marri: Testing Obama's New Legal StrategygetCSS("3088867")Video Officials look for terror ties <BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: Authorities around the globe are trying to figure out what prompted the attack. NBC's Tom Aspell reports.Nightly News getCSS("3088867")Video Why not on no-fly list?<BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: Rep. Peter King says lawmakers will be looking into why the suspect was in a terror database but not on the no-fly list.msnbc tv NBC, msnbc.com and news servicesupdated 1 hour, 15 minutes ago function UpdateTimeStamp(pdt) { var n = document.getElementById("udtD"); if(pdt != '' && n && window.DateTime) { var dt = new DateTime(); pdt = dt.T2D(pdt); if(dt.GetTZ(pdt)) {n.innerHTML = dt.D2S(pdt,((''.toLowerCase()=='false')?false:true));} } } UpdateTimeStamp('633975064228430000'); DETROIT - The U.S. government tightened airline security as it searches for answers to how a 23-year-old Nigerian man eluded extensive systems intended to prevent attacks like his botched Christmas Day effort to blow up a Northwest flight from overseas. The suspect who claimed ties to al-Qaida was charged Saturday with trying to destroy a Detroit-bound airliner, just a month after his father warned U.S. officials of concerns about his son's religious beliefs. U.S. government officials said Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab came to the attention of U.S. intelligence in November when his father went to the U.S. Embassy in Abuja, Nigeria, to express his concerns about his son. Sources close to the family said his father, former chairman of one of Nigeria's most prominent banks, also warned Nigerian authorities. Story continues below ↓ advertisement | your ad here dap('&PG=NBCMSN&AP=1089','300','250');At that time, Abdulmutallab was added to the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, a database maintained by the U.S. National Counterterrorism Center and which contains about 550,000 names of people who could have terror ties. The father did not have specific information that would put the 23-year-old on the "no-fly list" or on the list for additional security checks at the airport, one official said. Neither was the information sufficient to revoke his visa to visit the United States. His visa had been granted June 2008 and was valid through June 2010. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because neither was authorized to speak to the media. But a congressional official said the suspect did pop up in U.S. intelligence reports about four weeks ago as having a connection to both al-Qaida and Yemen. Joint terrorism task forces in New York, Maryland, Texas and Washington state were also investigating contacts Abdulmutallab may have had there, law enforcement officials said. <B itxtvisited="1">Bomb-sniffing dogs<BR itxtvisited="1"></B>Airports worldwide tightened security a day after the passenger tried to detonate a device that contained a high explosive on a flight into Detroit. After that attack, passengers have had to contend with extra pat-downs before boarding, staying in their seats without blankets or pillows for the last hour of the flight and more bomb-sniffing dogs. Britain's Sky News reported that some passengers were facing flight delays of up to five hours at London's Heathrow Airport. Aides to President Barack Obama are pondering how terror watch-lists are used after the botched attack, according to officials who described the discussions Saturday on the condition of anonymity so as not to pre-empt possible official announcements. These adjustments came after the Justice Department charged that Abdulmutallab willfully attempted to destroy or wreck an aircraft; and that he placed a destructive device in the plane. An affidavit said he had a device containing a high explosive attached to his body. The affidavit said that as Northwest Flight 253 descended toward Detroit Metropolitan Airport, Abdulmutallab set off the device — sparking a fire instead of an explosion. According to the affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Detroit, a preliminary analysis of the device showed it contained PETN, a high explosive also known as pentaerythritol. This was the same material convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid used when he tried to destroy a trans-Atlantic flight in 2001 with explosives hidden in his shoes. Click for related contentRead the charges against Abdulmutallab (PDF)<BR itxtvisited="1">U.S. tightens air travel rules<BR itxtvisited="1">Passenger tells of stopping suspect<BR itxtvisited="1">Obama's Christmas: Terror briefing, base visit<BR itxtvisited="1"> The investigation stretched to London, where officers from the Metropolitan Police, the force involved in most of the major terrorism investigations in Britain, cordoned off the street outside a white stone apartment block in a well-to-do area of central London on Saturday. A police spokeswoman said the force was carrying out searches in connection with the incident in Detroit. University College London said Abdulmutallab was enrolled at the school from September 2005 to June 2008. In Nigeria, the father of Abdulmutallab said his son had been a student in London, but had left the city to travel. ReutersUmar Farouk Abdulmutallab is shown in this undated photograph released to Reuters on Saturday. Citing U.K. government sources, the BBC reported that the suspect was refused a visa to return to Britain earlier this year after he attempted to apply for a course at a bogus college. Britain's Mail on Sunday newspaper reported that the suspect had injected a syringe of chemicals into a pack of combustible powder strapped to his leg. A security official in Amsterdam, where the Christmas Day flight originated, told Newsweek that U.S. security authorities had cleared the flight for departure. Sources in Nigeria told NBC News that Abdulmutallab had paid $2,831 in cash for a roundtrip ticket from Lagos, Nigeria, to Detroit, and that he had no checked baggage, just a shoulder bag that he carried on. In its charging papers, the Justice Department said Abdulmutallab had a device containing a high explosive attached to his body on Flight 253 from Amsterdam. As the Airbus 330 neared Detroit's airport on Friday, Abdulmutallab set off the device in seat 19A — but sparked a fire instead of an explosion, the government said. The Justice Department stated that after Abdulmutallab was restrained by passengers and crew, "one flight attendant asked him what he had had in his pocket, and he replied 'explosive device.'" U.S. District Judge Paul Borman read Abdulmutallab the charges in a conference room at the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor, Mich. where he is being treated for burns. The suspect smiled when he was wheeled into the hospital conference room for the hearing. He had a bandage on his left thumb and right wrist, and part of the skin on the thumb was burned off. Judge Borman asked the defendant if he was pronouncing his name correctly. Abdulmutallab responded, in English. "Yes, that's fine." The judge asked Abdulmutallab if he understood the charges against him. He responded in English: "Yes, I do." CONTINUED : Public defender 1 | 2 | Next > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT/SC#0471 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Ya know this is getting stupid so how does not letting you piss in the last hour of a flight make anyone safer? I the absence of no restrooms, some one is going to crap thier pants and then where will we be... This is asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedRacer Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I hope they get this figured out real fast.US did not take it as serious as they should have.What am I going to do know that we wont be able to go to the bathroom the last Hr before we land. I might have to skip that dinner on the plane. Airport security ramped up after botched attack Suspect's dad alerted U.S. to concerns but son was not put on 'no-fly list' getCSS("3088867")Video Suspect charged<BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: NBC's John Yang reports on the attempted bombing and the U.S. investigation into the suspect's past.Nightly News getCSS("3088867")Video Thwarted plot prompts tighter airport security<BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: The impact of the Christmas Day terrorism attempt is already being felt at the nation's airports, where new security procedures are in place. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.Nightly News getCSS("3088867")Video: Security More videoU.S. charges suspect in foiled jet attack<BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was arrested shortly after Northwest Flight 253 landed in Detroit and is now charged with trying to destroy the plane. NBC's John Yang reports.Officials probe suspect's possible terror tiesThwarted plot prompts tighter airport securityDid terror suspect fall through cracks?NBC: Bomb suspect's father warned authoritiesgetCSS("3053751")Breaking news alerts (about 1 per day) <BR itxtvisited="1">Click here to sign up or text NEWS to MSNBC (67622). Find more alerts at alerts.msnbc.com getCSS("3053751") Newsweek: More on global terrorismWill Holder Probe on CIA Detainee Abuse Fall Flat?Terror Watch: Unraveling the Flight 447 MysteryObama Faces Friendly Fire Over Terror PoliciesDid High-Value Detainee Commit Suicide in Libya?Has the Leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq Been Captured?Report: Detainees to Be Treated Like AnimalsRed Cross: What Did U.S. Do With Terror Suspects?U.S. Keeps Eye on Pakistani Taliban ThreatsMexico: Why Is U.S. Backing Away From Gun Ban?Terror Watch: Al-Marri: Testing Obama's New Legal StrategygetCSS("3088867")Video Officials look for terror ties <BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: Authorities around the globe are trying to figure out what prompted the attack. NBC's Tom Aspell reports.Nightly News getCSS("3088867")Video Why not on no-fly list?<BR itxtvisited="1">Dec. 26: Rep. Peter King says lawmakers will be looking into why the suspect was in a terror database but not on the no-fly list.msnbc tv NBC, msnbc.com and news servicesupdated 1 hour, 15 minutes ago function UpdateTimeStamp(pdt) { var n = document.getElementById("udtD"); if(pdt != '' && n && window.DateTime) { var dt = new DateTime(); pdt = dt.T2D(pdt); if(dt.GetTZ(pdt)) {n.innerHTML = dt.D2S(pdt,((''.toLowerCase()=='false')?false:true));} } } UpdateTimeStamp('633975064228430000'); DETROIT - The U.S. government tightened airline security as it searches for answers to how a 23-year-old Nigerian man eluded extensive systems intended to prevent attacks like his botched Christmas Day effort to blow up a Northwest flight from overseas. The suspect who claimed ties to al-Qaida was charged Saturday with trying to destroy a Detroit-bound airliner, just a month after his father warned U.S. officials of concerns about his son's religious beliefs. U.S. government officials said Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab came to the attention of U.S. intelligence in November when his father went to the U.S. Embassy in Abuja, Nigeria, to express his concerns about his son. Sources close to the family said his father, former chairman of one of Nigeria's most prominent banks, also warned Nigerian authorities. Story continues below ↓ advertisement | your ad here dap('&PG=NBCMSN&AP=1089','300','250');At that time, Abdulmutallab was added to the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, a database maintained by the U.S. National Counterterrorism Center and which contains about 550,000 names of people who could have terror ties. The father did not have specific information that would put the 23-year-old on the "no-fly list" or on the list for additional security checks at the airport, one official said. Neither was the information sufficient to revoke his visa to visit the United States. His visa had been granted June 2008 and was valid through June 2010. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because neither was authorized to speak to the media. But a congressional official said the suspect did pop up in U.S. intelligence reports about four weeks ago as having a connection to both al-Qaida and Yemen. Joint terrorism task forces in New York, Maryland, Texas and Washington state were also investigating contacts Abdulmutallab may have had there, law enforcement officials said. <B itxtvisited="1">Bomb-sniffing dogs<BR itxtvisited="1"></B>Airports worldwide tightened security a day after the passenger tried to detonate a device that contained a high explosive on a flight into Detroit. After that attack, passengers have had to contend with extra pat-downs before boarding, staying in their seats without blankets or pillows for the last hour of the flight and more bomb-sniffing dogs. Britain's Sky News reported that some passengers were facing flight delays of up to five hours at London's Heathrow Airport. Aides to President Barack Obama are pondering how terror watch-lists are used after the botched attack, according to officials who described the discussions Saturday on the condition of anonymity so as not to pre-empt possible official announcements. These adjustments came after the Justice Department charged that Abdulmutallab willfully attempted to destroy or wreck an aircraft; and that he placed a destructive device in the plane. An affidavit said he had a device containing a high explosive attached to his body. The affidavit said that as Northwest Flight 253 descended toward Detroit Metropolitan Airport, Abdulmutallab set off the device — sparking a fire instead of an explosion. According to the affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Detroit, a preliminary analysis of the device showed it contained PETN, a high explosive also known as pentaerythritol. This was the same material convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid used when he tried to destroy a trans-Atlantic flight in 2001 with explosives hidden in his shoes. Click for related contentRead the charges against Abdulmutallab (PDF)<BR itxtvisited="1">U.S. tightens air travel rules<BR itxtvisited="1">Passenger tells of stopping suspect<BR itxtvisited="1">Obama's Christmas: Terror briefing, base visit<BR itxtvisited="1"> The investigation stretched to London, where officers from the Metropolitan Police, the force involved in most of the major terrorism investigations in Britain, cordoned off the street outside a white stone apartment block in a well-to-do area of central London on Saturday. A police spokeswoman said the force was carrying out searches in connection with the incident in Detroit. University College London said Abdulmutallab was enrolled at the school from September 2005 to June 2008. In Nigeria, the father of Abdulmutallab said his son had been a student in London, but had left the city to travel. ReutersUmar Farouk Abdulmutallab is shown in this undated photograph released to Reuters on Saturday. Citing U.K. government sources, the BBC reported that the suspect was refused a visa to return to Britain earlier this year after he attempted to apply for a course at a bogus college. Britain's Mail on Sunday newspaper reported that the suspect had injected a syringe of chemicals into a pack of combustible powder strapped to his leg. A security official in Amsterdam, where the Christmas Day flight originated, told Newsweek that U.S. security authorities had cleared the flight for departure. Sources in Nigeria told NBC News that Abdulmutallab had paid $2,831 in cash for a roundtrip ticket from Lagos, Nigeria, to Detroit, and that he had no checked baggage, just a shoulder bag that he carried on. In its charging papers, the Justice Department said Abdulmutallab had a device containing a high explosive attached to his body on Flight 253 from Amsterdam. As the Airbus 330 neared Detroit's airport on Friday, Abdulmutallab set off the device in seat 19A — but sparked a fire instead of an explosion, the government said. The Justice Department stated that after Abdulmutallab was restrained by passengers and crew, "one flight attendant asked him what he had had in his pocket, and he replied 'explosive device.'" U.S. District Judge Paul Borman read Abdulmutallab the charges in a conference room at the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor, Mich. where he is being treated for burns. The suspect smiled when he was wheeled into the hospital conference room for the hearing. He had a bandage on his left thumb and right wrist, and part of the skin on the thumb was burned off. Judge Borman asked the defendant if he was pronouncing his name correctly. Abdulmutallab responded, in English. "Yes, that's fine." The judge asked Abdulmutallab if he understood the charges against him. He responded in English: "Yes, I do." CONTINUED : Public defender 1 | 2 | Next > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSURB® Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Sounds like there was another incident and arrest on the same flight inbound to Detroit from Amsterdam today. That two in as many days. Think they need to get a handle on this in a hurry. HSURB® Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicShelby Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I've been in France since Wed and I leave on Tuesday Morning so this is going to really be interesting at Schiphol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I hope they get this figured out real fast.US did not take it as serious as they should have.What am I going to do know that we wont be able to go to the bathroom the last Hr before we land. I might have to skip that dinner on the plane. Just do what the Nascar Drivers do............. Sounds like there was another incident and arrest on the same flight inbound to Detroit from Amsterdam today. That two in as many days. Think they need to get a handle on this in a hurry. HSURB® I bet there will be MORE soon. I've been in France since Wed and I leave on Tuesday Morning so this is going to really be interesting at Schiphol. Good luck....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOWN Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 TIK TIK TIK TIK ............... how long will it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceswert Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Maybe the bomb had already been stowed for this guy in the plane's lavatory. Any way you look at it, it's a bad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT/SC#0471 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Maybe the bomb had already been stowed for this guy in the plane's lavatory. Any way you look at it, it's a bad situation. Its funny you wrote that, I just flew from SEA to PHL and the lavatory had ant-tamper seals on the panels ...ALL of them old and peeling off and even ripped...I's guess that is something the TSA should look at, although it looked like the saels had been like that for a LONG time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicShelby Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I got back from France Yesterday. In Amsterdam it took over an hour of waiting in line for my passport to get stamped and then at the gate to board the plane was another hour and then they patted down each person boarding the plane. I am so glad to be back in the good ole USA. I also was so happy to see my Shelby GT jacket waiting for me at my neighbors house safe and sound in there garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingram4868 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I can see new concession stands popping up at major airports. Last chance to purchase your "Depends". Frequent flier discounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOWN Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenHornet Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 security has certainly gotten lax. and now the privacy beauracrats are screaming that full body scanners are an invasion....get real...whats more important...your freakin safety or hiding your rolls of fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT/SC#0471 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I got back from France Yesterday. In Amsterdam it took over an hour of waiting in line for my passport to get stamped and then at the gate to board the plane was another hour and then they patted down each person boarding the plane. I am so glad to be back in the good ole USA. I also was so happy to see my Shelby GT jacket waiting for me at my neighbors house safe and sound in there garage. Welcome back jack! So have you got the CS tattoo yet? Congrats on the jacket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOWN Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 It is a invasion if you don't want everyone to see your little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherri Leicht Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 or your body piecings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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