kahmann Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hey Dan, I'm still waiting on the kit to arrive. It ought to ship out at the beginning of next week. I got the engine and trans separated yesterday. Now I'm deliberating on whether to continue tearing the engine down myself or if I should just drop it off at the machine shop now and be done with it. I'll make my mind up by the end of this week and get pics up either way. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Cool. I'm thinking that I'll do much the same as you. I want to stay at 281, no Stroker. Doing research into internals and mechanics. I may buy a kit like you and have AED do all the work... Probably ought to get the kit soon, while they are still on sale. Can't wait to see yours, Ken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMcGuirk Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Hey Ken, Are you on track to make it in time for the Bash? MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 ^Still looking good for the Bash Michael. I'll let ya know if the schedule gets screwy for any reason. I've decided to complete the entire engine tear down myself. The specialty Motorcraft/Rotunda tools needed are on order, but I'll be in Vegas all week next week, so I won't get finished till next weekend. I'm planning on getting the bare block to the machine shop for a cleaning, bore, and assembly by Monday the 14th, assuming that the tools ship without issue. I'm excited to be doing the tear down at least. I'll get pics up of the next steps of progress. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong_j Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 What special tools are needed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 ^I have a cam gear lockout tool, crankshaft holder, valve spring compressor, and other specialty Motorcraft tools on order. However, I'm an impatient guy. So today at work, I spent a few hours on the engine and got it nearly completely disassembled without these tools. An impact gun and some creativity go a long way. All that's left is the crankshaft. The only reason I didn't remove it is because I'm certain that there is a sequence to removing the main studs, main bolts, and side bolts to prevent twisting of the block. I just don't know the sequence. I'll get photos up of my work tonight when I get home. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 The crankshaft alone arrived today. The rest of the kit is scheduled to ship Monday morning apparently. I also ordered some additional parts from MMR today: -ATI Super Street crank damper (10% overdrive) -ARP damper bolt -ARP head studs -ARP flywheel bolts -Felpro extreme duty head gaskets -MMR billet steel timing trigger wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greaser Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 mmmmm pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 ^ Sure is pretty isn't it? I'm getting tired of staring at it though. Still waiting on MMR to ship the rest of the stroker kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong_j Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 ^ Sure is pretty isn't it? I'm getting tired of staring at it though. Still waiting on MMR to ship the rest of the stroker kit. i know how you feel. i ordered the 950 stroker block 2 weeks ago and now they're saying its going to be another 2 weeks till its shipped. the anticipation is killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500-07 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 ^ Sure is pretty isn't it? I'm getting tired of staring at it though. Still waiting on MMR to ship the rest of the stroker kit. MMR is famous for making you wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Man I guess so. I finally got shipping confirmation today. I had to hound Rick several times a day to get the stuff in the mail. He finally called me an impatient A-hole (jokingly) and put a stamp on the parts. I dropped the crank off at the machine shop today. They have the block cleaned and ready to assemble. If the rest of the parts arrive by Thursday, I'll have an assembled short block before Xmas. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lgs ShelbyGT Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 The crankshaft alone arrived today. The rest of the kit is scheduled to ship Monday morning apparently. I also ordered some additional parts from MMR today: -ATI Super Street crank damper (10% overdrive) -ARP damper bolt -ARP head studs -ARP flywheel bolts -Felpro extreme duty head gaskets -MMR billet steel timing trigger wheel Ken, Very cool, now we are all jealous. Can't imagine how this will be once you have it all togther and back in your SGT. You must feel like a kid in an automotive candy store. Lg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 ^ It's definitely like xmas everyday around here. It seems like just yesterday that I was doing this to my old 289. Hard to believe that was 2 years ago that I built that motor. This is a whole lot more fun though, only because I know what kind of power I'm going to end up with at the end of all this. And the idea of this stuff in my regular driver is pretty exciting too. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Ken, Very cool, now we are all jealous. Can't imagine how this will be once you have it all togther and back in your SGT. You must feel like a kid in an automotive candy store. Lg YEs. I feel like that kid and it's not even my car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Santa came early (and was wearing a brown uniform). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Mahle Clevite main bearings ATI 10% overdrive 8-rib super street crank damper/pulley MMR billet steel timing trigger wheel (to replace the cheesy OEM stamped wheel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 These need no introduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Forged H-beam rods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor08GT500 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 ^ It's definitely like xmas everyday around here. It seems like just yesterday that I was doing this to my old 289. Hard to believe that was 2 years ago that I built that motor. This is a whole lot more fun though, only because I know what kind of power I'm going to end up with at the end of all this. And the idea of this stuff in my regular driver is pretty exciting too. Ken Hey Ken, I just found this post and read the whole thing. Just a heads up...Hastings rings are notorious for taking longer to seat than others. If you get the motor running before the Bash, be sure to do the usual 2500 RPM, 15 minute break in, drain the oil, replace filter ( you do this as the assembly lube partially clogs the oil filter during this time, and any contaminents get trapped by the filter) Also use 5-30 NON synthetic, and NON synthetic blend!! Then drive the car easy for 500 miles. The drive to Vegas will be perfect, just take it easy. As I said, the Hastings rings do take time to seat...if you just give it a beating right away, the rings may not seat. I have built many motors that had this problem because customers dont seat the rings properly and listen. Also stay with non synthetic oil for 5K miles and change every 1K after first break in change and anaylize oil each time for metal or anything that looks strange. Just a heads up as I want to see your awesome build go smoothly and last a long time with out smoking... Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Wow Ken, it's getting real exciting now!! And, I think we all agree with AstroDan! Seeing it go from paper to parts and anticipating the build and installation is over the top. Thanks for sharing with all of us! Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Hey Ken, I just found this post and read the whole thing. Just a heads up...Hastings rings are notorious for taking longer to seat than others. If you get the motor running before the Bash, be sure to do the usual 2500 RPM, 15 minute break in, drain the oil, replace filter ( you do this as the assembly lube partially clogs the oil filter during this time, and any contaminents get trapped by the filter) Also use 5-30 NON synthetic, and NON synthetic blend!! Then drive the car easy for 500 miles. The drive to Vegas will be perfect, just take it easy. As I said, the Hastings rings do take time to seat...if you just give it a beating right away, the rings may not seat. I have built many motors that had this problem because customers dont seat the rings properly and listen. Also stay with non synthetic oil for 5K miles and change every 1K after first break in change and anaylize oil each time for metal or anything that looks strange. Just a heads up as I want to see your awesome build go smoothly and last a long time with out smoking... Alex Hey Alex thanks for chiming in man. The Hastings rings were the only part of this kit I wasn't too excited about honestly. They're a cheap ring and I've had bad luck with them in the past. I've got my guy at the machine shop trying to source a better piston ring for the build. I'll let ya know what he finds. Wow Ken, it's getting real exciting now!! And, I think we all agree with AstroDan! Seeing it go from paper to parts and anticipating the build and installation is over the top. Thanks for sharing with all of us! Chuck Thanks Chuck, I'm glad you're enjoying the progress! It's getting pretty fun now for sure, but I'm getting more and more antsy to get back on the ROAD! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORSBYT Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Hey man, those are all nice new shiny parts, but my question is, are ya gonna have that thing back together for the BASH??!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor08GT500 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Hey Alex thanks for chiming in man. The Hastings rings were the only part of this kit I wasn't too excited about honestly. They're a cheap ring and I've had bad luck with them in the past. I've got my guy at the machine shop trying to source a better piston ring for the build. I'll let ya know what he finds. Ken You bet...just hate to see something as inexpensive as piston rings ruin your new engine build. I have built 1000's of motors and always advise against these rings. Sealed Power, Total Seal, and TRW make great quality rings for not alot of money. Hope your car is done for the Bash. I look forward to seeing you. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500-07 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Ken, what are you doing for heads? If you have MMR doing them, stay on top of them. It took them 6+weeks to get mine done for the GT500 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Hey man, those are all nice new shiny parts, but my question is, are ya gonna have that thing back together for the BASH??!!!! The short block will be done next week, according to the machine shop. But the heads are the issue now. They were the source of all this work to begin with, so I don't want to cut any corners on the top end. I have the heads boxed up to go out to MMR Monday morning. But I think I'll run them by my machine shop first, just to see if we can't come up with something on a little swifter timeline. I've had the Bash in mind this entire time and am still planning on going. I'm just going to need to get a whole lot done upstairs in a short period of time, if I want to ride in style. Stay tuned... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Can't wait to see your final build Ken !! It'll be a beast !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkGT500nCA Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 You've got to be pretty excited. What kind of boost are you planning on running once it's complete, and what kind of power are you expecting? Should be pretty stout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong_j Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 The short block will be done next week, according to the machine shop. But the heads are the issue now. They were the source of all this work to begin with, so I don't want to cut any corners on the top end. I have the heads boxed up to go out to MMR Monday morning. But I think I'll run them by my machine shop first, just to see if we can't come up with something on a little swifter timeline. I've had the Bash in mind this entire time and am still planning on going. I'm just going to need to get a whole lot done upstairs in a short period of time, if I want to ride in style. Stay tuned... Ken if you go with MMR for the heads what stage are you going with?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 You've got to be pretty excited. What kind of boost are you planning on running once it's complete, and what kind of power are you expecting? Should be pretty stout! Planning on 17-18 psi. With the heads opened up and the huge exhaust, the motor will be running a lot more efficiently obviously, which will make it tougher to build boost pressure. It'll put down well over 6xxRWHP. I'm shooting for the 7xx's on race gas. if you go with MMR for the heads what stage are you going with?? Well the port/polish and valve job will be a stage 3. The cams, however, won't be any heavier than a stage 2, if that. Depends on what Comp says about my failure. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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