kahmann Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Regardless of which direction I go with this engine, it's coming out either way. This little paragraph from Shaun at AED regarding the potential engine build and install caught my attention: "That being said, any parts we take off, we'll install NEW parts at no charge. IE, new clutch, headers, etc. It's a great time to get other modifications done as the added labor is either zero (so it's installed for free), or at a reduced price (like a K-member swap) since the added labor to do the install is reduced. This is how our customers save $$$ in the long run." If I'm paying to have a clutch and flywheel installed, no matter if it's stock or an upgrade, I may as well consider the options. So which clutch and flywheel combo would be a solid choice for the SGT? I've heard good things about Spec and McLeod. I had the Centerforce dual friction in my 66 and wasn't blown away by it or anything. Price is important, by the way. Thanks for any input. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_GT350 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 If I'm paying to have a clutch and flywheel installed, no matter if it's stock or an upgrade, I may as well consider the options. So which clutch and flywheel combo would be a solid choice for the SGT? I've heard good things about Spec and McLeod. I'm not that "up to date" on it all Ken, that I will admit. But Dennis at Tasca recommended and installed the McLoed twin disc and aluminum flywheel in my SGT when they did the GT/SC upgrade. I can't comment on how well it works either because I don't pick the car up until this Friday. Just giving you some info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordFan1 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 After blowing pieces of my OEM clutch thru the flywheel (at only 2500 miles), I paid the differance to upgrade to a Fidanza aluminum flywheel & 2.1 Kevlar clutch. Labor was covered by Ford. http://www.fidanza.com/2Point1.aspx So far I like it, even tho I haven't really been able to test it, since there is a 800 mile in town break-in period. I'm just now reaching that mark since the SGT only gets out of the garage a few days a month until spring time, but I can say there is a night and day differance when it comes to clutch engagement vs the oem unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueone Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Regardless of which direction I go with this engine, it's coming out either way. This little paragraph from Shaun at AED regarding the potential engine build and install caught my attention: "That being said, any parts we take off, we'll install NEW parts at no charge. IE, new clutch, headers, etc. It's a great time to get other modifications done as the added labor is either zero (so it's installed for free), or at a reduced price (like a K-member swap) since the added labor to do the install is reduced. This is how our customers save $$$ in the long run." If I'm paying to have a clutch and flywheel installed, no matter if it's stock or an upgrade, I may as well consider the options. So which clutch and flywheel combo would be a solid choice for the SGT? I've heard good things about Spec and McLeod. I had the Centerforce dual friction in my 66 and wasn't blown away by it or anything. Price is important, by the way. Thanks for any input. Ken I went with the Ram 900/300 and the Fidanza 8 bolt aluminum flywheel and it's held up pretty good so far after a fair amount of abuse. The petal is a little stiff and there is a slight amount of chatter but you get used to it quickly,stop and go traffic gets old fast though. I should have upgraded my input shaft and went with the 26 spline when I had it out. http://www.lethalperformance.com/05-09-mus...-8-bolt-p-12058 http://www.lethalperformance.com/05-09-mus...-spline-p-14677 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thanks for the feedback guys. These all sound to be very good options. So for a direct replacement, I go with the 10 spline, correct? If I wanted to upgrade to the 26 spline, where do you find the correct input shaft? Thanks again. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueone Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thanks for the feedback guys. These all sound to be very good options. So for a direct replacement, I go with the 10 spline, correct? If I wanted to upgrade to the 26 spline, where do you find the correct input shaft? Thanks again. Ken Not sure about the 26 spline shaft but I think the trans has to come apart to change one out, the 10 spline is the direct replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Not sure about the 26 spline shaft but I think the trans has to come apart to change one out, the 10 spline is the direct replacement. 10 spline it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dans07SGT Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'm not that "up to date" on it all Ken, that I will admit. But Dennis at Tasca recommended and installed the McLoed twin disc and aluminum flywheel in my SGT when they did the GT/SC upgrade. I can't comment on how well it works either because I don't pick the car up until this Friday. Just giving you some info. I've heard nothing but good things about this setup. A couple local guys with over 600 hp went with this. I think the guys at AED will tell you the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 6 bolt vs 8 bolt flywheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueone Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 6 bolt vs 8 bolt flywheel? Most steel cranks if not all are 8 bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Most steel cranks if not all are 8 bolt. OK thanks. Only reason I ask is because that's the option given on Lethal's site: http://www.lethalperformance.com/05-09-mus...-6-bolt-p-21641 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devildog350 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 OK thanks. Only reason I ask is because that's the option given on Lethal's site: http://www.lethalperformance.com/05-09-mus...-6-bolt-p-21641 Go with the RAM Hydraulic Release Bearing, it has a bleed line that you can run outside the bell housing, and place either at the housing or up on the firewall, so its easy to bleed after youve done laps on the track, this will cool down the release bearing, and keep the clutch from sticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Go with the RAM Hydraulic Release Bearing, it has a bleed line that you can run outside the bell housing, and place either at the housing or up on the firewall, so its easy to bleed after youve done laps on the track, this will cool down the release bearing, and keep the clutch from sticking. I've got this McLeod bearing on my to do list http://www.lethalperformance.com/05-09-mus...ylinder-p-22626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devildog350 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I've got this McLeod bearing on my to do list http://www.lethalperformance.com/05-09-mus...ylinder-p-22626 Looks about the same, the Ram is 0.510-0.525 travel, adjustable for use with single or dual-disc. stock travel-0.430-0.450. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slbgtsc Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 My two cents after replacing stock clutch and two after market clutches. First clutch was a Spec 2+ with a re-surfaced stock flywheel. It lasted about 500 miles. Started slipping before break in was complete. Eventually Spec replaced under warranty. (much to my suprise). 2nd clutch was a zoom dual disc with aluminum flywheel and a ram slave unit. Clutch was super stiff I think my left leg got 2" bigger. Zoom tech said this was not correct so we pulled it out and sent it back, which they warrantied as well. The Ram unit was great except that the mechanic that installed it cut the guide rod short which could have caused the unit to get stuck which of course would ruin the clutch. We pulled the zoom unit, the ram slave and replaced it with the warrantied spec and a new stock slave unit. so far this has been a sweet combination. I am getting 470rwhp with 450rwtq no problems so far. I have been to the track multiple times even hot lapping the car which is hard on the slave unit and I have not missed a gear. I like the ram unit as it gives you the ability to bleed the clutch system which is a weak link with our car. I did not like the aluminum flywheel. It felt like I had to give it more juice to get it rolling. My suggestions: 1. New slave unit with new clutch 2. get the FRP braided line for the slave unit 3. break it in well before you get on it. 4. high temp fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 So you're running a resurfaced steel flywheel now or the aluminum one? Thanks for the feedback man, that's all good stuff to know. If I can save the dough on the flywheel and be happier with the one I have, that would be awfully nice. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slbgtsc Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I went back to the stock steel flywheel. Glad to help. So you're running a resurfaced steel flywheel now or the aluminum one?Thanks for the feedback man, that's all good stuff to know. If I can save the dough on the flywheel and be happier with the one I have, that would be awfully nice. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Stock flywheel isn't an option for me with my new 8 bolt crank. Anyone know of an aftermarket 8 bolt steel flywheel option? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devildog350 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Stock flywheel isn't an option for me with my new 8 bolt crank. Anyone know of an aftermarket 8 bolt steel flywheel option? Ken M-6375-G46 Billet Steel-requires metric pressure plate bolts N602549-S51M M-6375-R00 Aluminum-requires metric pressure plate bolts-N602549-S51m These are both 8 bolt flywheels thru FRPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 ^Thanks again man. Exactly what I was looking for. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted January 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 It looks like the billet steel flywheel from FRPP is no longer available. Will the aluminum FRPP flywheel definitely fit my car? There's no difference between flywheels from SN-95's and S-197's? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted January 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 ^For anyone interested, M-6375-R00 will work with an 05+ that has been equipped with an 8 bolt crank. I've got this aluminum flywheel on order from FRPP as of today. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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