Glenn Greenwell Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Well here I am again with a information quest from forum members that have been here and have the knowledge. Does anyone know if the GT Disk on the rear faux (fake) gas cap can be removed out of the center chrome area and a new emblem placed in it's place. If you know how did you do it, can you share that info with me. I need to remove the GT emblem and insert a laser cut emblem in it's place. Seems like someone had done it on the forum, but I don't recall. Any help appreciated...... GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Your SGT doesn't have the B-J emblem affixed over the GT emblem? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SGT1977 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 My Ford dealer did it for me in about 10 minutes. A lot of people have done it themselves using fishing line though. I just didn't feel comfortable myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Greenwell Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Your SGT doesn't have the B-J emblem affixed over the GT emblem? Ken Hey Ken, Yes it did, but the BJ Emblem was aluminum like thin disk similar I believe to what Shelby approved for the SGTs. Mine turned yellow in the AZ sun and there are none left to replace under warranty. I thought it was a complete disk so I had MTM Unlimited cut me a laser disk thinking it would just pop out of the center. I remember someone mentioning fishing line, how do you get it between the orginal GT emblem and back of the chrome gas cap holder with out cracking anything. My new one is a perfect 3 inches and I am just trying to get my car back to stock, I've had it about 3 weeks and it's been in the shop with stripes that came in the wrong color red when applied they looked pink. Any help appreciated, I don't mind doing this if the emblem will actually let go, your thoughts......... GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Hey Ken, Yes it did, but the BJ Emblem was aluminum like thin disk similar I believe to what Shelby approved for the SGTs. Mine turned yellow in the AZ sun and there are none left to replace under warranty. I thought it was a complete disk so I had MTM Unlimited cut me a laser disk thinking it would just pop out of the center. I remember someone mentioning fishing line, how do you get it between the orginal GT emblem and back of the chrome gas cap holder with out cracking anything. My new one is a perfect 3 inches and I am just trying to get my car back to stock, I've had it about 3 weeks and it's been in the shop with stripes that came in the wrong color red when applied they looked pink. Any help appreciated, I don't mind doing this if the emblem will actually let go, your thoughts......... GG Well that's a bum deal, sorry to hear about your trouble. So the B-J emblem is off and now you want to remove the GT emblem? I don't know if the GT emblem comes off, honestly, I've never tried. The cap I have is the 'Shelby GT' cap that I bought from SPP. That cap, just like your B-J cap, just sticks to the GT emblem with 3M tape. Is affixing your new center cap over the top of the GT emblem not an option? Do you have any photos of the new cap? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Greenwell Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Well that's a bum deal, sorry to hear about your trouble. So the B-J emblem is off and now you want to remove the GT emblem? I don't know if the GT emblem comes off, honestly, I've never tried. The cap I have is the 'Shelby GT' cap that I bought from SPP. That cap, just like your B-J cap, just sticks to the GT emblem with 3M tape. Is affixing your new center cap over the top of the GT emblem not an option? Do you have any photos of the new cap? Ken Ken, The BJ Emblem I had made is a flat disk and the GT Emblem is slightly curved........ GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007_Shelby_GT Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I don't think the GT is removable, just the entire faux gas cap with the fishing line trick. Bummer, you would think that replacement BJ emblems (however rare) would be available - did you check with Scott Drake? Another option might be to remove the faux gas cap and have the center emblem milled flat, (to match your new custom emblem), and attach with epoxy or similar. I don't know how substantial the plastic is on those things is, so that might be tricky. Sam AKA: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08 Mustang Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I removed the rear emblem on my GT using fishing line. The center GT portion alone can not. The rear badge actually has 2 alignment guides in the middle, 1 behind the "G" and 1 behind the "T", that help guide it into place that make it alittle tricky when removing. You have to patiently take the fishing line and go from the outside of the badge toward the middle, from all 4 directions. Once you do that you can take a plastic putty knife and a microfiber towel and pry it away from the car. That's where the fun begins. The double sided tape that was left behind on mine was awefull!! I honestly felt like it was never going to come off. I tried everything...my fingers, goo gone, WD40 (sprayed on a rag & dabbed on the adhesive)....it just took forever. But, it eventually came off. I then had a detail buddy buff the crap out of the area. Once done, I put the new one on and I was good to go! here's a pic Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I removed the rear emblem on my GT using fishing line. The center GT portion alone can not. The rear badge actually has 2 alignment guides in the middle, 1 behind the "G" and 1 behind the "T", that help guide it into place that make it alittle tricky when removing. You have to patiently take the fishing line and go from the outside of the badge toward the middle, from all 4 directions. Once you do that you can take a plastic putty knife and a microfiber towel and pry it away from the car. That's where the fun begins. The double sided tape that was left behind on mine was awefull!! I honestly felt like it was never going to come off. I tried everything...my fingers, goo gone, WD40 (sprayed on a rag & dabbed on the adhesive)....it just took forever. But, it eventually came off. I then had a detail buddy buff the crap out of the area. Once done, I put the new one on and I was good to go! here's a pic Good Luck! What did you end up putting in it's place? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Greenwell Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I removed the rear emblem on my GT using fishing line. The center GT portion alone can not. The rear badge actually has 2 alignment guides in the middle, 1 behind the "G" and 1 behind the "T", that help guide it into place that make it alittle tricky when removing. You have to patiently take the fishing line and go from the outside of the badge toward the middle, from all 4 directions. Once you do that you can take a plastic putty knife and a microfiber towel and pry it away from the car. That's where the fun begins. The double sided tape that was left behind on mine was awefull!! I honestly felt like it was never going to come off. I tried everything...my fingers, goo gone, WD40 (sprayed on a rag & dabbed on the adhesive)....it just took forever. But, it eventually came off. I then had a detail buddy buff the crap out of the area. Once done, I put the new one on and I was good to go! here's a pic Good Luck! Well just so everyone understands, were you are in the picture, is where I am at the bodyshop, its off and I have a chrome ring cap with a GT Emblem in the center, it appears the consense of opinion is the GT center emblem can not be removed from the center, I suspect it is infact glued or taped in the center. Plan B is just apply a decal over the GT cap emblem and say to he-- with it, nothing as I have found out is simple with these SGTs. Just my thoughts, I've been solving my own minor issues because the warranty process on these cars is just to complicated and drawn out. A local sign company made me an exact replica of the BJ Emblem so I will attach it and smooth it out and be good to go....... GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SGT1977 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I liked the old school look and it matches my wheel center caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tispco Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 It looks like you should be able to get the GT emblem off the chrome disk. Attached is a pic from the GT-H prototype build. It looks like the GT badge has been removed and it was glued on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 It looks like you should be able to get the GT emblem off the chrome disk. Attached is a pic from the GT-H prototype build. It looks like the GT badge has been removed and it was glued on. Nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lgs ShelbyGT Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 The double sided tape that was left behind on mine was awefull!! I honestly felt like it was never going to come off. I tried everything...my fingers, goo gone, WD40 (sprayed on a rag & dabbed on the adhesive)....it just took forever. There is a product called "Goof Off" that our body shop suggested for tough removals but safe to the paint. Purchased it at an ACE Hardware store. Per label, it removes: most glues, marker & pen ink, white correction fluid, crayons, asphalt, tar, lipstick, chewing gum, oil, grease, scuff marks, adhesives & labels..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 There is a product called "Goof Off" that our body shop suggested for tough removals but safe to the paint. Purchased it at an ACE Hardware store. Per label, it removes: most glues, marker & pen ink, white correction fluid, crayons, asphalt, tar, lipstick, chewing gum, oil, grease, scuff marks, adhesives & labels..... +1 on the Goof Off. The stuff works wonders on 3M tape residue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Greenwell Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 It looks like you should be able to get the GT emblem off the chrome disk. Attached is a pic from the GT-H prototype build. It looks like the GT badge has been removed and it was glued on. Hey Tipsco, You know it never ever ceases to amaze me at the amount of knowledge on this forum, if you look at the GT emblem, it just looks like it is a glued in disk, so I think I am going to buy a GT replacement emblem gas cap from blue oval industries and just try and figure out how to remove the GT part from the center and glue in my new BJ Limited Edition disk from MTM Unlimited. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08 Mustang Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 What did you end up putting in it's place? Ken I ended up putting an emblem with a snake on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hey Tipsco, You know it never ever ceases to amaze me at the amount of knowledge on this forum, if you look at the GT emblem, it just looks like it is a glued in disk, so I think I am going to buy a GT replacement emblem gas cap from blue oval industries and just try and figure out how to remove the GT part from the center and glue in my new BJ Limited Edition disk from MTM Unlimited. GG You might find one cheaper here: http://www.newtakeoff.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank S Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 +1 on the Goof Off. The stuff works wonders on 3M tape residue. It works about as well as Spray 'N' Wash, in my experience. The latter may take a little longer, since it's advisable to let it sit after application, so the enzyme action can take effect. I used Spray 'N' Wash on the Texas bugs plastered all over the front of my black car: sprayed them all with water, then with Spray 'N' Wash, let sit overnight. They (all but one I missed with the Spray) hosed off in the morning. Harmless to paint. Looks like wax is pretty much unaffected too, but I'm going to go over it again with the Gold Meguiar's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT-C0056 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I have seen some on the GT500 with the snake, but the ring around it says SHELBY not FORD. Where can we get one of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I have seen some on the GT500 with the snake, but the ring around it says SHELBY not FORD. Where can we get one of these I'd give SPP a call. The SS emblem cover is the only one I can find on the site, but they ought to have the one that just says Shelby on it too. http://www.shelbyperformanceparts.com/Show...em%20Cover.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildAzCat Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I have seen some on the GT500 with the snake, but the ring around it says SHELBY not FORD. Where can we get one of these Found this one at http://www.mossmuscle.com/Shop/ViewProduct...teIndexID=71888 I like it but don't want to over due the Shelby thing in the rear. I already have the letters along the deck lid and on plate frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Hey Tipsco, You know it never ever ceases to amaze me at the amount of knowledge on this forum, if you look at the GT emblem, it just looks like it is a glued in disk, so I think I am going to buy a GT replacement emblem gas cap from blue oval industries and just try and figure out how to remove the GT part from the center and glue in my new BJ Limited Edition disk from MTM Unlimited. GG Here's one for $20 http://www.newtakeoff.com/mustang_gt_rear_..._2005-2008.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Greenwell Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Here's one for $20http://www.newtakeoff.com/mustang_gt_rear_..._2005-2008.aspx For those that want the mystery solved the directions are posted on TMS by a forum member in the modification section of the 2005-09 mustang section. The black GT emblem in the chrome housing can be removed. Thank you for your suggestions and trying to help and I appreciate it. I am trying to put a new Barrett Jackson Limited Edition 3"disk replacement where the actual GT emblem is on my SGT-BJ convertable. It had a special stick on foil disk similar in application to the one approved by SAI for putting over the GT emblem. In my case I had MTM unlimited make the new disk to replace the one I am going to pull (thought I could get out) out tonight. The disk is glued in with silicon clear cement. It appears it can be done, I'm going to try to do it tonight with the deck lid emblem and holder and see if I can remove it without tearing it up. ( Read next posts - screwed the pouch) Thanks for the help, now it's time to see if I can follow instructions and not screw it up.... GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Another option might be to remove the faux gas cap and have the center emblem milled flat, (to match your new custom emblem), and attach with epoxy or similar. I don't know how substantial the plastic is on those things is, so that might be tricky. Sam AKA: I think it would be better to mill the disc out like the Berg cap was. Then attach with tape. Should be perfect as long s the replacement is aluminum... I wish I had taken a picture before installing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Greenwell Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I think it would be better to mill the disc out like the Berg cap was. Then attach with tape. Should be perfect as long s the replacement is aluminum...I wish I had taken a picture before installing... Well Folks for those who want to know what not to do you can see the results in the final post of mine on http://forums.themustangsource.com/showthr...723#post5748723 One thing is for sure, there are some things on a Shelby that have issues, stripes & hood pins come to mind, but the silicon glue won't break free for crap. Astro Dan can I send you a spare and you drill it out under the brother in law plan? I have to poke a little fun at myself after reading some of the issues other members have been through. I know just enough to be dangerous on this stuff, my SGT-BJ is still down trying to get the correct color red match to the red BJ Stripe Package, which is holding up the installation of the hood scoop and the car has just a ch over 200 miles on the odometer, good grief... That's life in the fast lane or in my case, no lane at all my SGT is parked in the stripe shop garage. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SGT1977 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I have seen some on the GT500 with the snake, but the ring around it says SHELBY not FORD. Where can we get one of these http://shelbyperformanceparts.com/ListItem...em%20Cover.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT-C0056 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Found this one at http://www.mossmuscle.com/Shop/ViewProduct...teIndexID=71888 I like it but don't want to over due the Shelby thing in the rear. I already have the letters along the deck lid and on plate frame. I knew I have seen it somewhere. Now that you mention it, Your right, it would be too much SHELBY all over. TAPD117, All I did was get my Shelby GT emblem and place it over the existing GT one. Cleaned the original surface with alcohol. I have put 4000 miles at a high speed of 110MPH and it has not fallen off. Quickest MOD I have done, less than 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Well Folks for those who want to know what not to do you can see the results in the final post of mine on http://forums.themustangsource.com/showthr...723#post5748723 Astro Dan can I send you a spare and you drill it out under the brother in law plan? GG I do have access to an excellent machine shop at my Refinery and good machinists. I can have them take a skim to any desired concavity. I think it would be good. The only (potential) issue is the disc may end up with marks from where it gets chucked into the machine. I can ask THE MAN what he thinks, and it would help if someone knows what the milling measurements would need to be. Does what you have now look like this pic (From the linked site)? I think the shoulder would be around .050 wide and dish out @ .100 deep, but not positive. If interested, PM me and I'll send you my address... Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soft Top Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 This rear emblem removal is so interesting and informative. I tried a few months ago to remove the plate and used the fish line heat gun trick. The entire plate I would like to remove, not just the center disc.I found that the two studs wont let go. Is there something on the back holding them on or is it just glue. Mine just doesn't want to let go. Any other help. Thanks Gord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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