mullens Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Ordered my res eliminator from Tousley Ford-$49.95+shipping. To me it's worth 50 bucks to have a FRRP part and not have to take out the hack saw. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Ordered my res eliminator from Tousley Ford-$49.95+shipping. To me it's worth 50 bucks to have a FRRP part and not have to take out the hack saw. Thanks for the info. Wow. That's cheap. Do they have Internet sales or just direct? Shoot, I guess I ought'a check with my local Dealer. I just *hate* payin' MSRP but I guess until I ask (?SHRUG?)...I just assumed! Thanks, Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Wow. That's cheap. Do they have Internet sales or just direct? Shoot, I guess I ought'a check with my local Dealer. I just *hate* payin' MSRP but I guess until I ask (?SHRUG?)...I just assumed! Thanks, Phill Just call and ask for Mike. Tousley sells FRRP for 10% over cost, so you will get a better deal from them. The only thing that you have to consider is the shipping, depending on where you live. I agree with Phill about leaning the a/f out. The tube is after the MAF so, as long as the MAF housing remains the same it should be OK. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 With that steel wrapped around it reminds me of the Torando Fuel Saver. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 The only way it will cause a lean condition is if it's un-metered air (aka "False Air"). If it goes through the MAF Sensor, it is *metered* air and will not cause any driveability problems. Phill Pollard 2010 Kona Blue/White GT500 So if you put a cold air intake instead of the regular one on 07-09 and you do not calibrate the tune you do not risk it running lean...it still goes into the MAF Sensor though. I will follow the SVT advice no doubt in my mind about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdusseau Posted November 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 So tell me this. All you that are against this mod for what ever reason. But are willing to spend the cash for the Ford racing part, explain what is the difference between the two. Besides the FRPP sticker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 So tell me this. All you that are against this mod for what ever reason. But are willing to spend the cash for the Ford racing part, explain what is the difference between the two. Besides the FRPP sticker. The tune! Am concerned if more air flows in even if it is metered through the sensor, it may need tweaks in the tune so you do not risk running the car lean, SVT from another post said the same, I am just pointing the obvious, if you want to risk running the car lean then be my guest, it is your car not mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 RALPH ARNING - SVT told me last week that the removal will cause leaning and did not recommend it to ensure engine integrity.( aka no problems ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdusseau Posted November 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Ah hahah. Interesting, Ford racing tube does not come with tune, nor do they advise that a tune is needed. Sorry bud, but SVT will always give you the same answer no matter what. They want you to buy there stuff. Call them and tell them you are wanting to switch tire brand and what do they think you should do. Then tell me what they say.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 So if you put a cold air intake instead of the regular one on 07-09 and you do not calibrate the tune you do not risk it running lean...it still goes into the MAF Sensor though. I will follow the SVT advice no doubt in my mind about it! You might want to check what a Cold Air Intake (CAI) kit includes.... You are not just sticking a free flowing air filter on the intake. You are also adding a 113mm MAF Sensor housing. That means, "same sensor-different (size) housing". You are allowing more air into the intake than the stock/OEM sensor was seeing. You *must* re-cal to compensate for MORE AIR (than the sensors Range Of Authority/ROA allows). Friend, you can believe whoever you want to believe. If you want to believe "SVT" then by all means, do what THEY tell you to do. I don't know who they are or what they know so I'll defer judgement until I know different. *I'm* telling you that the intake resonator is 1. *metered* air (i.e. AFTER the MAF), and 2. is NOT increasing air-flow into the intake and therefore does NOT need recalibration. You see, *I* prefer to belive what *I* know from my decades of personal experience, training and teaching (Electronic Engine Control is my Forte). Respectfully, Phillip R. Pollard AC Delco/GM Certified Master Tech ASE Certified Master Tech ASE Certified L-1 Advanced Level Tech California BAR Certified Smog Mechanic California BAR Certified CACC (Smog) Instructor-Emeritus Engine Management Diagnosis (EMD) Instructor - Corinthian Colleges West Coast campus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 The tune! Nope, sorry, you're wrong. There is NO TUNE with the resonator delete tube. Phill Pollard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 You might want to check what a Cold Air Intake (CAI) kit includes.... You are not just sticking a free flowing air filter on the intake. You are also adding a 113mm MAF Sensor housing. That means, "same sensor-different (size) housing". You are allowing more air into the intake than the stock/OEM sensor was seeing. You *must* re-cal to compensate for MORE AIR (than the sensors Range Of Authority/ROA allows). Friend, you can believe whoever you want to believe. If you want to believe "SVT" then by all means, do what THEY tell you to do. I don't know who they are or what they know so I'll defer judgement until I know different. *I'm* telling you that the intake resonator is 1. *metered* air (i.e. AFTER the MAF), and 2. is NOT increasing air-flow into the intake and therefore does NOT need recalibration. You see, *I* prefer to belive what *I* know from my decades of personal experience, training and teaching (Electronic Engine Control is my Forte). Respectfully, Phillip R. Pollard AC Delco/GM Certified Master Tech ASE Certified Master Tech ASE Certified L-1 Advanced Level Tech California BAR Certified Smog Mechanic California BAR Certified CACC (Smog) Instructor-Emeritus Engine Management Diagnosis (EMD) Instructor - Corinthian Colleges West Coast campus with all due respect to your titles i will stick to what SVT tells me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Nope, sorry, you're wrong.There is NO TUNE with the resonator delete tube. Phill Pollard I did not say it comes with a tune....I said if more air goes in the tune may need modification to accommodate te extra influx. And that is supported by what the other member said when SVT advised against removing it. Look am not trying to argue here nor to be a pain...rather i thought of the possibility of running the car lean and SVT said the same ...that is all to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Oh ... HAPPY THANKSGIVING every one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 The tune!Am concerned if more air flows in even if it is metered through the sensor, it may need tweaks in the tune so you do not risk running the car lean, SVT from another post said the same, I am just pointing the obvious, if you want to risk running the car lean then be my guest, it is your car not mine! I see what you're saying, but I tend to agree Phill that as long as you keep the MAF the same size there is no additional volume of unmetered air. Look at the CAI kits that require a tune, they all increase MAF size (JLT 110mm, FRPP 113 mm etc.). SVT will give the canned answer to any such question, as they can't recommend mods of any type. They are of the opinion that they built the perfect engine and noone should try to change it. I went through the same thing when I had my SRT8. The SRT engineers would hold forum chat sessions and they would NEVER support or recommend any mods. This discussion can be easily resolved when someone with the res delete puts their car on a dyno and checks the A/F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I did not say it comes with a tune.... Well, yeah, actually, in a sense you did. Let me refresh your memory: "tdusseau" asked "So tell me this. All you that are against this mod for what ever reason. But are willing to spend the cash for the Ford racing part, explain what is the difference between the two. Besides the FRPP sticker." And *you* said, "The tune!". I replied, "Nope, sorry, you're wrong. There is NO TUNE with the resonator delete tube". And now you're saying "I did not say it comes with a tune...." You can't have it both ways. It is either "THE TUNE", or it is not. I'm still puzzled regarding your opinion that removing the guts on a resonator somehow increases air going into the engine (i.e. making t lean). Care to explain? And a happy Thanksgiving to you too, Phill Pollard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well, yeah, actually, in a sense you did. Let me refresh your memory: "tdusseau" asked "So tell me this. All you that are against this mod for what ever reason. But are willing to spend the cash for the Ford racing part, explain what is the difference between the two. Besides the FRPP sticker." And *you* said, "The tune!". I replied, "Nope, sorry, you're wrong. There is NO TUNE with the resonator delete tube". And now you're saying "I did not say it comes with a tune...." You can't have it both ways. It is either "THE TUNE", or it is not. I'm still puzzled regarding your opinion that removing the guts on a resonator somehow increases air going into the engine (i.e. making t lean). Care to explain? And a happy Thanksgiving to you too, Phill Pollard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Re: Tousley Ford;Just call and ask for Mike. Tousley sells FRRP for 10% over cost, so you will get a better deal from them. The only thing that you have to consider is the shipping, depending on where you live. Do you have a phone number handy? I think your profile said you're in NV. Is that where Tousley is located? Heck, if they sell FRPP's for 10% over COST, I'll order all of my FRPP stuff (2.9L SC, Handling Pack, etc) from them! Thanks for the tip, Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruiner Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Do you have a phone number handy? I think your profile said you're in NV. Is that where Tousley is located? Heck, if they sell FRPP's for 10% over COST, I'll order all of my FRPP stuff (2.9L SC, Handling Pack, etc) from them! Thanks for the tip, Phill they are a sponsor of svtperformance.com and if you mention you are a member they give you the discount. they have a post on there now about prices going up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Do you have a phone number handy? I think your profile said you're in NV. Is that where Tousley is located? Heck, if they sell FRPP's for 10% over COST, I'll order all of my FRPP stuff (2.9L SC, Handling Pack, etc) from them! Thanks for the tip, Phill 1-888-884-7756. They're in Min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Installed the FRPP reso eliminator today. There is definitely a difference in sound, but not as much as you would think. The best part is removing the restriction and now there's a straight shot from filter to TB. Install took 15 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruiner Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 what is it made out of? hard plastic or rubber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 what is it made out of? hard plastic or rubber? "High Impact Polymer" (Plastic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelTownStang Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 What would you say the sound increase is from 1-10 (Stock = 1)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 What would you say the sound increase is from 1-10 (Stock = 1)? I'd say 4. The most noticeable increase is part throttle acceleration. There was NO blower whine before, but now you can hear it. It's still not as loud as my 08 with the FRPP CAI. They definitely have done something else with noise suppression that has nothing to do with the intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm208 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 DID YOU NOTICE ANY INCREASE IN THROTTLE RESPONSE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 DID YOU NOTICE ANY INCREASE IN THROTTLE RESPONSE? None that I could notice, but I haven't flogged it yet (only has 300 miles). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruiner Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 you car is still stock without a tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Yes, stock tune. No tune revision is required, as discussed earlier in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex14 Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Question: I just did this and it didn't change the sound at all.. It sounds the exact same as the blower did stock. Any ideas? 2013 GT500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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