Lucky 2 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 You CAN believe this. Absolutely true. This needs to circulate until everyone sees it. ................. Be sure to click on the "Fred Thompsom Interview" at the bottom of this page..... Page 425 of Health Care BILL O.K. folks - I 'think' this will 'shake us up' - read and listen to the Interview - "IF" this does not cause every red-blooded American to contact their Representative, I don't know what will!! It's time for ACTION! Americans!! Both Democrats and Republicans beware. (If this doesn't make your blood boil........... nothing will!!) Page 425 of Health Care Bill - Listen to this interview Fred Thompson's Radio Show interviewing Betsy McCaughey (pronounced Mc Coy). Or look it up on www.fredthompsonshow.com, under interviews. On page 425 it says in black and white that EVERYONE on Social Security, (will include all Senior Citizens and SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 years to learn and to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life). Health care will be denied based on age. 500 Billion will be cut from Seniors healthcare. The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and the sickest will be cut first. Paying for your own care will not be an option. Now, CALL YOUR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell them to read page 425 if they don't read anything else. Surely some of them have parents. "ON PAGE 425 OF OBAMAS HEALTH CARE BILL, the Federal Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them just how to end their own life earlier. Yes...They are going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!" Fred Thompson: Interviews (BE SURE TO CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINE and listen all the way through, for the ending will shock you as well.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtkeith Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Wow not good at all....Question is is there anything you can do about it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Everyone says to "Email your Rep.".......well, if I do that, I know I will go to Jail because of what I will write............. SO...........Will someone please Write what should be said and Post it so it can be "Cut & Pasted into an Email? That would help me and others a LOT and maybe keep Me (and others) out of Jail............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Doctor Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Considering the bill has not made it out of House Committee, (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32174687/ns/politics-capitol_hill), I think this is BS fear-mongering from the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyDude Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Considering the bill has not made it out of House Committee, (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32174687/ns/politics-capitol_hill), I think this is BS fear-mongering from the right. Crap like that should have never been put there in the first place!!!! Who ever is responsible for writing that should be put in front of a firing squad and shot! Government has no right nor authority to play God by determining who lives and dies! PERIOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 The past year seems like a bad dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 If anyone is interested, here's a link to the text of the bill: http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf Personally, I don't interpret it as promoting suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdscooby Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 If anyone is interested, here's a link to the text of the bill: http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf Thanks, was actually just looking for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Doctor Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Crap like that should have never been put there in the first place!!!! Who ever is responsible for writing that should be put in front of a firing squad and shot! Government has no right nor authority to play God by determining who lives and dies! PERIOD! You mean like Roosevelt did with the soldiers and sailors in the Phillipeans, or in any war for that matter? "Crap like that" appears in all bills from both sides of the aisle. EDIT: Geez! Read the damn thing! It's a planning session for either DNR or what care you want if you are not able to speak for yourself! Geez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump_breaker Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 OMG. Please actually READ the document before you give the liberals on here more fuel for their fires. The political sh!t on here is bad enough as it is. It actualy starts on page 426 line 4 and discusses end-of-life services not life-ending services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I think, with all due respect, there's some pretty wild stretching of the facts here. I have the bill right in front of me and the section, page 425, is called "Advance Care Planning Consultation" has nothing to do with limiting care. It's about setting up things like living wills, hospice care planning, and making sure people and families are aware of federal and state elderly care programs, etc. The issue of care is only addressed as part of a living will where the individual requests what is or is not done in the event that they can not make their wishes known. Absolute truth? Not even close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Doctor Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 OMG. Please actually READ the document before you give the liberals on here more fuel for their fires. The political sh!t on here is bad enough as it is. It actualy starts on page 426 line 4 and discusses end-of-life services not life-ending services. I think, with all due respect, there's some pretty wild stretching of the facts here. I have the bill right in front of me and the section, page 425, is called "Advance Care Planning Consultation" has nothing to do with limiting care. It's about setting up things like living wills, hospice care planning, and making sure people and families are aware of federal and state elderly care programs, etc. The issue of care is only addressed as part of a living will where the individual requests what is or is not done in the event that they can not make their wishes known. Absolute truth? Not even close! Isn't that what I said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOWN Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Crap like that should have never been put there in the first place!!!! Who ever is responsible for writing that should be put in front of a firing squad and shot! Government has no right nor authority to play God by determining who lives and dies! PERIOD! Plus 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnsignaldelete Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 "ON PAGE 425 OF OBAMAS HEALTH CARE BILL, [/b]the Federal Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them just how to end their own life earlier. Yes...They are going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!" Criminal in content and Intent. All, 'True American Patriot's, should Demand an Immediate investigation into who purposed this ' obama inspired, Nazi Like' delusional solution to eradicate the 'old guard' America loving population' from the United States. Once the 'Old Guard is dead and gone then obama and his 'Kool-Aid drinking supporters can turn The United Socialist States of America, into a 'True Fully, " Communist State". Considering the bill has not made it out of House Committee, (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32174687/ns/politics-capitol_hill), I think this is BS fear-mongering from the right. Some of the GREATEST atrocity's against, people from All nations have been from the Leftist Socialist/Communist side of the Political spectrum. It is naive and just plain non-sense that, All that obama and the Leftists want to, Shove down our throats is, 'Righteous and of good Merit'. Bush made decisions, that I did not agree with. That said Bush was not forcing the United States into a Socialist/Communist form of Government. Crap like that should have never been put there in the first place!!!! Who ever is responsible for writing that should be put in front of a firing squad and shot! Government has no right nor authority to play God by determining who lives and dies! PERIOD! +1,000,000 Absolutely, this is a 'war'. Americans , that think that it is not a war of 'Political Ideals,' are Naive at best and completely delusional, that obama, is not as dangerous to the United States as Hitler was to Germany. History does repeat itself, and it's repeating one it's worst 'chapters' in 'dictator obama' pushing the United States into Socialism/Communism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackVert Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Isn't that what I said? Yes, and I was just getting ready to say the same thing. You took the words right out of my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCrazy Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Criminal in content and Intent. All, 'True American Patriot's, should Demand an Immediate investigation into who purposed this ' obama inspired, Nazi Like' delusional solution to eradicate the 'old guard' America loving population' from the United States. Once the 'Old Guard is dead and gone then obama and his 'Kool-Aid drinking supporters can turn The United Socialist States of America, into a 'True Fully, " Communist State". Some of the GREATEST atrocity's against, people from All nations have been from the Leftist Socialist/Communist side of the Political spectrum. It is naive and just plain non-sense that, All that obama and the Leftists want to, Shove down our throats is, 'Righteous and of good Merit'. Bush made decisions, that I did not agree with. That said Bush was not forcing the United States into a Socialist/Communist form of Government. +1,000,000 Absolutely, this is a 'war'. Americans , that think that it is not a war of 'Political Ideals,' are Naive at best and completely delusional, that obama, is not as dangerous to the United States as Hitler was to Germany. History does repeat itself, and it's repeating one it's worst 'chapters' in 'dictator obama' pushing the United States into Socialism/Communism. Off your meds again heh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 If anyone is interested, here's a link to the text of the bill: http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf Personally, I don't interpret it as promoting suicide. I don't either. Any time I see "The absolute truth", my warning signals go up. We on the right don't need alarm to further our agenda, we need the truth and a clear counter-point to the left, IMHO. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Criminal in content and Intent. All, 'True American Patriot's, should Demand an Immediate investigation into who purposed this ' obama inspired, Nazi Like' delusional solution to eradicate the 'old guard' America loving population' from the United States. Once the 'Old Guard is dead and gone then obama and his 'Kool-Aid drinking supporters can turn The United Socialist States of America, into a 'True Fully, " Communist State". Some of the GREATEST atrocity's against, people from All nations have been from the Leftist Socialist/Communist side of the Political spectrum. It is naive and just plain non-sense that, All that obama and the Leftists want to, Shove down our throats is, 'Righteous and of good Merit'. Bush made decisions, that I did not agree with. That said Bush was not forcing the United States into a Socialist/Communist form of Government. +1,000,000 Absolutely, this is a 'war'. Americans , that think that it is not a war of 'Political Ideals,' are Naive at best and completely delusional, that obama, is not as dangerous to the United States as Hitler was to Germany. History does repeat itself, and it's repeating one it's worst 'chapters' in 'dictator obama' pushing the United States into Socialism/Communism. Case in point to my above post. This type of ranting does nothing to convince people that need convincing. The ones that agree believe anything, IMHO. TSD, do you think this type of post will get, say, Jeff to change his mind? (Jeff, I use you because I see you as someone I respect and usually disagree with! lol) Relax, bro. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Case in point to my above post. This type of ranting does nothing to convince people that need convincing. The ones that agree believe anything, IMHO. TSD, do you think this type of post will get, say, Jeff to change his mind? (Jeff, I use you because I see you as someone I respect and usually disagree with! lol) Relax, bro. Dan All good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnsignaldelete Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Case in point to my above post. This type of ranting does nothing to convince people that need convincing. The ones that agree believe anything, IMHO. TSD, do you think this type of post will get, say, Jeff to change his mind? (Jeff, I use you because I see you as someone I respect and usually disagree with! lol) Relax, bro. Dan All good! I appreciate the comments. I know that my 'Posts', aka ''Rants' , are over the top. That said, I am extremely concerned about obama's agenda for America. With obama's far left up bringing and beliefs, my fear is that he and others are going to 'Push', the United States into a Socialist, fringe Communist type of government. I have traveled extensively, and have seen first hand the 'reality's' of country's, that are burdened with either a Socialist or Communist form of government. It is frightening to me, how many people, voted for (obama), a socialist leaning candidate. Further it is amazing to me, how many people I interface with in my travels that do not care if the government of United States is Socialist or Communist, in it's definition/practice, as long as they get, or are promised the Life Style', that they believe they are entitled too. I don't know if that helps, to understand my concerns and fears about obama and his agenda.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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