F150 Duke Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hey Guys, I may be putting this in the wrong forum so please beat me gently if I'm wrong, but I thought the crowd here would like to see this. It's motortrends info on the SMS Saleen Mustang to be released late 2009. However, the key sentence is this.... The SMS 460X will feature the 5.0-liter V-8 and expected to output a massive 655 hp and 600 lb-ft of torque. The 460X will reportedly boogie to 60 mph in about four seconds flat. Both engines will be fitted with Saleen's latest SMS 296 Supercharger unit, while the 460X will also come with Saleen's Red Butterfly Induction System. Transmissions include five-speed auto or manual for the 460, with a six-speed SMS-massaged manual as the gear changer for the 460X. I wonder if this is a peak at what is to come for the 2011 GT500. Why continue to use the 5.4 V8 block if the 5.0 block can be supercharged to blow the output of the supercharged 5.4 out of the water? http://wot.motortrend.com/6561015/auto-new...ebut/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmurr Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 That car uses the built Saleen motors from the S302 series. They aren't the same motor that's going into the 2011 car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of GT Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 That car uses the built Saleen motors from the S302 series. They aren't the same motor that's going into the 2011 car. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F150 Duke Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 That car uses the built Saleen motors from the S302 series. They aren't the same motor that's going into the 2011 car. So that's not the 2011 GT 5.0? I know it's not the proposed aluminum 5.4 GT500 2011 motor if that is what you're referring too. Sorry, apparently, just a bit confused on my side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 So that's not the 2011 GT 5.0? I know it's not the proposed aluminum 5.4 GT500 2011 motor if that is what you're referring too. Sorry, apparently, just a bit confused on my side. I didn't realize the relatively new SMS Limited had a stockpile of built Saleen S302 engines laying around? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 http://www.themustangnews.com/carnews_09/0...mustang-460.htm for more pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmurr Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I didn't realize the relatively new SMS Limited had a stockpile of built Saleen S302 engines laying around? Ken It's not a "stockpile". However, it's pretty much the same motor Saleen is using. Not the new 5.0L motor that will be in the 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8camaro Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Since we are on the topic of the 2011 GT500, I found a slide that Ford recently presented to the press on future ford engines, the one engine that's missing is the 5.0 during the presentation, the question was asked about the 5.0, the Ford speaker said the news about that engine will be released later, the one thing that caught everyone's attention is the 6.2L V8, it is completely different from what Ford engineers have designed before, once again Ford is very hush hush on the 6.2L, but my source that got me the slide from the press conference confirmed that indeed Roush is building a 5.0L for Ford as we speak. There's a rumor on the SVT forum that the 6.2L will be in the 2011 GT500, it was developed and planned a year ago to compete against the Camaro SS (which died), it will be an aluminum block instead of iron and it will save over 100lbs, which will put the GT500 50/50 weight ratio to be almost dead on. Anyone else know what new colors will be available for the 2011 GT500?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTrickPony Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Since we are on the topic of the 2011 GT500, I found a slide that Ford recently presented to the press on future ford engines, the one engine that's missing is the 5.0 during the presentation, the question was asked about the 5.0, the Ford speaker said the news about that engine will be released later, the one thing that caught everyone's attention is the 6.2L V8, it is completely different from what Ford engineers have designed before, once again Ford is very hush hush on the 6.2L, but my source that got me the slide from the press conference confirmed that indeed Roush is building a 5.0L for Ford as we speak. There's a rumor on the SVT forum that the 6.2L will be in the 2011 GT500, it was developed and planned a year ago to compete against the Camaro SS (which died), it will be an aluminum block instead of iron and it will save over 100lbs, which will put the GT500 50/50 weight ratio to be almost dead on. Anyone else know what new colors will be available for the 2011 GT500?? Oh well, if we can't have the biggest, at least we can say we have the last model year with the 5.4L engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.s Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 i am still hoping a grabber green/black stripe will pop up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleestack Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 There's a rumor on the SVT forum that the 6.2L will be in the 2011 GT500, it was developed and planned a year ago to compete against the Camaro SS (which died), it will be an aluminum block instead of iron and it will save over 100lbs, which will put the GT500 50/50 weight ratio to be almost dead on. Anyone else know what new colors will be available for the 2011 GT500?? Keeping my powder dry.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bear Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 That car uses the built Saleen motors from the S302 series. They aren't the same motor that's going into the 2011 car. Yeah my understanding was an all aluminium block good for 1100+ hp before grenading. I have talked to others who heard the same but, its the usual believe it when you see it. For the 2011 GT 500 I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 wow! 6.2 liters and aluminum, if it happens that will be a dream coming true, imagine then the ADM on the darn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie18 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 You guys can't really believe they'll change the engine for 2011 GT500? And the Camaro SS is obviously not dead, it has 426HP. The Camaro Z/28 that was supposed to possibly house the 6.2L supercharged engine from the CTS-V is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 You guys can't really believe they'll change the engine for 2011 GT500? from what i hear that Romeo is still making the 5.4 iron for a while. i think it will still power the 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie18 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Since we are on the topic of the 2011 GT500, I found a slide that Ford recently presented to the press on future ford engines, the one engine that's missing is the 5.0 during the presentation, the question was asked about the 5.0, the Ford speaker said the news about that engine will be released later, the one thing that caught everyone's attention is the 6.2L V8, it is completely different from what Ford engineers have designed before, once again Ford is very hush hush on the 6.2L, but my source that got me the slide from the press conference confirmed that indeed Roush is building a 5.0L for Ford as we speak. There's a rumor on the SVT forum that the 6.2L will be in the 2011 GT500, it was developed and planned a year ago to compete against the Camaro SS (which died), it will be an aluminum block instead of iron and it will save over 100lbs, which will put the GT500 50/50 weight ratio to be almost dead on. Anyone else know what new colors will be available for the 2011 GT500?? I've seen more that the 6.2L producing about 400HP is going to be for the 2010 Mustang GT, the same engine that is going into the 2010 Ford F-150 Raptor. Ford isn't being hush about the 6.2L at all, its right on the Raptor's homepage and says it will be available in early 2010. Ford could supercharge that but it would be a waste, they are already the horsepower king so they won't waste money to eclipse themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I've seen more that the 6.2L producing about 400HP is going to be for the 2010 Mustang GT, the same engine that is going into the 2010 Ford F-150 Raptor. Ford isn't being hush about the 6.2L at all, its right on the Raptor's homepage and says it will be available in early 2010. Ford could supercharge that but it would be a waste, they are already the horsepower king so they won't waste money to eclipse themselves. they will go down not up with environmental stiffer regulations and greenies in the oval office, will be lucky if we keep our 5.4, think of turbo v6 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie18 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 The Mustang GT is the last place ford would put a Turbo V6, i don't doubt the EcoBoost engine will make its way into the Mustang lineup eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 The Mustang GT is the last place ford would put a Turbo V6, i don't doubt the EcoBoost engine will make its way into the Mustang lineup eventually. What are the specs on that engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie18 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 What are the specs on that engine? You can see the specs for the new engine in the 2010 Taurus. 3.5L V6 Twin Turbocharged Direct Injection 365 HP 350 Lb-ft 91 Octane Recommended paired with its 6 Speed transmission its gets 17/25 MPG. For comparison, The current Mustang GT 4.6L V8 Port Injection 315 HP 325 Lb-Ft Regular Unleaded With a 5 speed, 16/24 MPG for Auto 17/23 MPG for Manual Filling up with regular unlead in the GT offsets the EcoBoost's higher MPG value. With the Mustang GT V8's MPG numbers being so close to the EcoBoost V6's and the fact that it is a performance vehicle i doubt it will be losing the V8 anytime soon. With new technology like direct injection and a 6 speed the MPG numbers for a new 5.0L engine could help it keep up with turbocharged V6's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 The Mustang GT is the last place ford would put a Turbo V6, i don't doubt the EcoBoost engine will make its way into the Mustang lineup eventually. You can see the specs for the new engine in the 2010 Taurus. 3.5L V6 Twin Turbocharged Direct Injection 365 HP 350 Lb-ft 91 Octane Recommended paired with its 6 Speed transmission its gets 17/25 MPG. For comparison, The current Mustang GT 4.6L V8 Port Injection 315 HP 325 Lb-Ft Regular Unleaded With a 5 speed, 16/24 MPG for Auto 17/23 MPG for Manual Filling up with regular unlead in the GT offsets the EcoBoost's higher MPG value. With the Mustang GT V8's MPG numbers being so close to the EcoBoost V6's and the fact that it is a performance vehicle i doubt it will be losing the V8 anytime soon. With new technology like direct injection and a 6 speed the MPG numbers for a new 5.0L engine could help it keep up with turbocharged V6's. So you are saying that we will see the v6 turbo in mustangs for 2011? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMcGuirk Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hey Guys, I may be putting this in the wrong forum so please beat me gently if I'm wrong, but I thought the crowd here would like to see this. It's motortrends info on the SMS Saleen Mustang to be released late 2009. However, the key sentence is this.... The SMS 460X will feature the 5.0-liter V-8 and expected to output a massive 655 hp and 600 lb-ft of torque. The 460X will reportedly boogie to 60 mph in about four seconds flat. Both engines will be fitted with Saleen's latest SMS 296 Supercharger unit, while the 460X will also come with Saleen's Red Butterfly Induction System. Transmissions include five-speed auto or manual for the 460, with a six-speed SMS-massaged manual as the gear changer for the 460X. I wonder if this is a peak at what is to come for the 2011 GT500. Why continue to use the 5.4 V8 block if the 5.0 block can be supercharged to blow the output of the supercharged 5.4 out of the water? http://wot.motortrend.com/6561015/auto-new...ebut/index.html A fully optioned 460X is almost $100K. I think Ford learn a lesson in Mustang price elasticity with the KR. I'll take a GT500 at $45K-50K all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.