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I got a PM asking me if I knew what would be the best alternative or aftermarket Clutch for the 2007 - 2009 GT500 because this person is having to buy one out of his own pocket. I did not know....so I got ahold of one of the most qualified engineers on this subject.

 

He told me he would use the 2010 Shelby GT500 setup. "You would need the clutch, clutch bolts, flywheel and CSC from 2010 Shelby GT500". He said "it has feather light effort, great modulation and is good for over 700 lb-ft".

I just thought I would pass this information on. :)

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this is a quote from Derrick Kuzak, Ford group vice president:

 

 

"The twin-disc clutch on the six-speed manual transmission has been significantly upgraded, improving drivability and NVH. The discs on the 2010 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 are larger - 250 mm in diameter compared with 215 mm in diameter on the outgoing model - and made of copper and fiberglass to make them more robust.

 

A unique component of the twin-disc system is the control of the intermediate disc. Rather than floating, it instead has six straps that control the engagement of the clutch, improving drivability."[

 

 

http://www.netcarshow.com/ford/2010-mustang_shelby_gt500/

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So on paper does it look like a better system- it handles more horsepower and torque so the question is will it be less of a problem- This a major change for ford and I would guess had our old system been so great they would have left it alone. I think they did the right thing as the ceramic could not always cut the mustard. Any thoughts as to how it compares with the old system etc. Crystal ball guesses- I have no idea but I have not been a winner on the ceramic system.

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So on paper does it look like a better system- it handles more horsepower and torque so the question is will it be less of a problem- This a major change for ford and I would guess had our old system been so great they would have left it alone. I think they did the right thing as the ceramic could not always cut the mustard. Any thoughts as to how it compares with the old system etc. Crystal ball guesses- I have no idea but I have not been a winner on the ceramic system.

I thought the ceramic is more durable but it does not appeal to drivers since it makes those "normal" sounds, I personally like my trans and clutch, i like the heavy weight to it compared to my other feather weight kia clutch i have overseas, it reminds me what a great car i have..........oh......that is besides the killing looks of our model, the sc whine , the acceleration. the.......

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I thought the ceramic is more durable but it does not appeal to drivers since it makes those "normal" sounds, I personally like my trans and clutch, i like the heavy weight to it compared to my other feather weight kia clutch i have overseas, it reminds me what a great car i have..........oh......that is besides the killing looks of our model, the sc whine , the acceleration. the.......

 

I don't think the clutch effort in my non-TSB '08 is heavy at all. Sure it is heavier than my TSX, but that has less torque to manage than my garden tractor.

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I got a PM asking me if I knew what would be the best alternative or aftermarket Clutch for the 2007 - 2009 GT500 because this person is having to buy one out of his own pocket. I did not know....so I got ahold of one of the most qualified engineers on this subject.

 

He told me he would use the 2010 Shelby GT500 setup. "You would need the clutch, clutch bolts, flywheel and CSC from 2010 Shelby GT500". He said "it has feather light effort, great modulation and is good for over 700 lb-ft".

I just thought I would pass this information on. :)

 

Makes me kinda wonder why this isn't the clutch they install when the TSB is performed???

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Does the 2010 new clutch system have the potentilal to be a better system than the 2007-2009 gt 500s- Also is it mated to a different tremec tranny than a lot of us have. I know it will take time and a few different drivers styles to really answer the question but is there anyone out there with clutch knowledge that would speculate betweem the two? The word organic can cover a lot of products- is the new material used by any other manufactures- Is it possible that it could be used in a tsb on the prevous model years? This is a major change in fords thinking . The clutch being a wear item under warranty may be a reason- I hope they are not putting a more user freindly clutch that would perform better - under normal driving- but not take the hard hits on the street or track. It may create less heat but the disc material may not last as long, I just do not know but for a lot of us- maybe a few- this could be good news- chime in on the new clutch if you have any thoughts or speculation for fords change in systems. Will it be for the best or little or no difference?

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It will likely be no cheaper and the labor would be the same I would guess- I am supprised this topic has not had more response however I guess we will have to see it perform on different drivers with different driving habbits- going to keep watching the 2010 site posts to see what happens- I think it may have been a move in the right direction for ford if the clutch system can take the power and torque of hard driving. The heat issue should improve thus the daily driver will have a softer smoother clutch. How it will act or last under moderate to extreme use will be the test. Right now I believe the tsb in an 07-09 is around 4500.00-5000.00. The 2010 cannot be much if any less. A lot of the earlly cars are running out of warranty thus we are seeing more posts on aftermarket clutches- there are a lot of aftermarket cltches out there for anything from the stock feel to more agressive race style clutches. The race style clutch is going to have a stiffer pedal but nothing like the cluthes from the 60s before we had hydraulic cluthes- I have a racing style clutch in my 66 ( I cannot use the c word) and you talk about stiff. Some of us have forgotten how the clutches of the past were so hard to push especially if we had one that had to withstand some horsepower. I believe and let me know if I am wrong that it is somewhat the same wth the aftermarket clutches that a lot of people are using in our cars- the more agressive racing style clutches have a stiffer pedal and may not be as smooth as a stocker but are built for more power and torque. Even then the hydraulic system is a piece of cake compared to the old clutches without that option. A whole clutch system for my 66 c word costs less than 400.00 complete. We will never see low pricing on our cars as times and products are more complex but the aftermarket and competion should bring the prices down. Plus as the cars go out of warranty more garages and speed shop will do the work which may help prices. More gt 500 clutches will hit the aftermarket once they know the numbers are out there to produce product and with four years of production out there we should see more hitting the market- My hope however is that the 2010 system by ford will be a winner as I would like to stay in that direction if possible, Any feedback on how someones aftermarket clutch's feel and performance as compared to our stockers would be a great help- also names of producers and costs and how you feel about your system on the road and racing applications.

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It will likely be no cheaper and the labor would be the same I would guess- I am supprised this topic has not had more response however I guess we will have to see it perform on different drivers with different driving habbits- going to keep watching the 2010 site posts to see what happens- I think it may have been a move in the right direction for ford if the clutch system can take the power and torque of hard driving. The heat issue should improve thus the daily driver will have a softer smoother clutch. How it will act or last under moderate to extreme use will be the test. Right now I believe the tsb in an 07-09 is around 4500.00-5000.00. The 2010 cannot be much if any less. A lot of the earlly cars are running out of warranty thus we are seeing more posts on aftermarket clutches- there are a lot of aftermarket cltches out there for anything from the stock feel to more agressive race style clutches. The race style clutch is going to have a stiffer pedal but nothing like the cluthes from the 60s before we had hydraulic cluthes- I have a racing style clutch in my 66 ( I cannot use the c word) and you talk about stiff. Some of us have forgotten how the clutches of the past were so hard to push especially if we had one that had to withstand some horsepower. I believe and let me know if I am wrong that it is somewhat the same wth the aftermarket clutches that a lot of people are using in our cars- the more agressive racing style clutches have a stiffer pedal and may not be as smooth as a stocker but are built for more power and torque. Even then the hydraulic system is a piece of cake compared to the old clutches without that option. A whole clutch system for my 66 c word costs less than 400.00 complete. We will never see low pricing on our cars as times and products are more complex but the aftermarket and competion should bring the prices down. Plus as the cars go out of warranty more garages and speed shop will do the work which may help prices. More gt 500 clutches will hit the aftermarket once they know the numbers are out there to produce product and with four years of production out there we should see more hitting the market- My hope however is that the 2010 system by ford will be a winner as I would like to stay in that direction if possible, Any feedback on how someones aftermarket clutch's feel and performance as compared to our stockers would be a great help- also names of producers and costs and how you feel about your system on the road and racing applications.

Nice write up, i enjoyed reading this post. it brought to me the memory of our neighbors Citroen car in Damascus Syria that was made in the fifties, we used to play and slide on its sloping down front bumper when we were kids and he was ok with that since the thickness of that bumper could of well been 1 cm or so of steel. He kept the car for a long time and later when i was teenager i still remember that heavy clutch that car had. and i was wondering how in the world with his arthritis he was able to drive the car with that heavenly stiff clutch?

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