ilmor Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 For what possible reason was this necessary and was it a good use of taxpayer dollars? It scared the heck out of a lot of New Yorkers today. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100da...-new-york-city/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrakalas427 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 What was the point??? To scare the s..t out of everybody who saw it??? If this moron approved something so foolish and demeaning, he should be tried for treason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/20...dent-ob-28.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I find it extremely hard to believe that Obama didn't know about this in advance, being such a major operation. It was also planned to happen in D.C., both 9/11 sites?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007GT Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I guess they never heard of Photoshop. These people are like children on a playground only they have lots of our money to play with. On a side note, what did anybody think of "Dear Leader" stammering and stuttering when his teleprompter wasn't handled correctly? He certainly can think on his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 The first (and only) thing that came to mind while reading this was that either someone high up with to much power thinks it would be funny to do that or that person thinks they could get paid big money from the Enquirer for the Photos (or from MAD Magazine). It seems that EVERYONE in a Suit on Capital Hill should be FIRED and we start from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 What I would like to know is............... <1> Who came up with the idea to do that? <2> Who gave to OK to seek permission higher up to do it? <3> Who is the Highest Up Person that OK'd this plan? <4> What was the reasoning behind it all? <5> Why was it kept Hush-Hush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I find it extremely hard to believe that Obama didn't know about this in advance, being such a major operation. It was also planned to happen in D.C., both 9/11 sites?? In fact Obama was flying the plane using a Wii Interface device in the Oval Office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I find it extremely hard to believe that Obama didn't know about this in advance, being such a major operation. It was also planned to happen in D.C., both 9/11 sites?? In fact Obama was flying the plane using a Wii Interface device in the Oval Office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCMM Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 That's okay guys. I wouldn't be too concerned about this. I heard a better one this morning. Obama wanted air time on the major stations tonight for a news conference and all the networks said no. Seems that America wants to see American Idol more than they want to see him. The masses have spoken. 'Bout time he got knocked down to earth. Yep, he's human and it looks like the shine has worn off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormeaston Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 In fact Obama was flying the plane using a Wii Interface device in the Oval Office! Who was flying the F-16's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Who was flying the F-16's? ummm, pilots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/20...dent-ob-28.html Bull he is furious after the fact to cover his a the charade parade continues.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007GT Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 That's okay guys. I wouldn't be too concerned about this. I heard a better one this morning. Obama wanted air time on the major stations tonight for a news conference and all the networks said no. Seems that America wants to see American Idol more than they want to see him. The masses have spoken. 'Bout time he got knocked down to earth. Yep, he's human and it looks like the shine has worn off. He's the political equivalent of Brittany Spears. All he's interested in is being on TV and keeping his face on the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalwart Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 It's all the fault of . . . GEORGE BUSH! That's right, Bush did it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Im not sure I would throw Obama under the bus for this....I don't think flight plans are typically run by the president.... Besides, I knew the second I saw the video, it was Air Force One...and it had a fighter jet escort... I think it was not thought through, but I need clarification on something from someone who lives there. Do planes not fly near the city typically? I was under the impression that La Guardia and Kennedy were pretty close to the city? How do planes land or take off there? Reagan airport in DC has planes coming in right over the pentagon ever 2 minutes...do those people get nervous or excited? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 The background story is this was the traditional new administration photo of Air Force One. President Bush had it shot over the Grand Canyon and the idea was to take a shot with the Statue of Liberty. Well...I think someone was too caught up in the patriotic aspects and not enough in the common sense aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Im not sure I would throw Obama under the bus for this....I don't think flight plans are typically run by the president.... Besides, I knew the second I saw the video, it was Air Force One...and it had a fighter jet escort... I think it was not thought through, but I need clarification on something from someone who lives there. Do planes not fly near the city typically? I was under the impression that La Guardia and Kennedy were pretty close to the city? How do planes land or take off there? Reagan airport in DC has planes coming in right over the pentagon ever 2 minutes...do those people get nervous or excited? Nope. ALL airspace over NYC has been shut down to jet traffic since 9/11 under a certain altitude, even small aircraft is restricted after the Yankee pitcher flew his plane into a highrise. You never see any low flying jets over the city anymore, the flight plans were modified for approach/take offs. I personally didnt see this jet, but I bet I would have s myself if I did. Especially with the F-16 escort, that would have made it look like it was being forced down. While LaGuardia is only a few miles from Manhattan, JFK is more than 20 miles away, Newark is actually closer than both of those, but all their planes stay on the Jersey side. And sorry Warren that you dont understand the fragility of this situation, maybe if jets flew over NYC every 2 minutes like the Pentagon, they we wouldnt have noticed either, but since they dont, .......THIS WAS A MAJOR F UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 The background story is this was the traditional new administration photo of Air Force One. President Bush had it shot over the Grand Canyon and the idea was to take a shot with the Statue of Liberty. Well...I think someone was too caught up in the patriotic aspects and not enough in the common sense aspects. WHAT A SURPRISE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 AND anybody who sat in Jacob Javits Convention Center with me and all those iron workers and firemen and cops and construction workers for 2 days trying to be allowed down to ground zero to help out only to be turned away and sent home and told there was nothing we could do can comment, THE REST OF YOU CAN SHUT UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 The background story is this was the traditional new administration photo of Air Force One. President Bush had it shot over the Grand Canyon and the idea was to take a shot with the Statue of Liberty. Well...I think someone was too caught up in the patriotic aspects and not enough in the common sense aspects. It probably wouldn't have been so bad if they had let it be known what was GOING to happen and that it was going to be a Photo Op. They could have made it a great thing, letting people know in advance so they to could have a chance to take Photos themselves. But instead, they made everyone involved keep it Hush-Hush...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 That's okay guys. I wouldn't be too concerned about this. I heard a better one this morning. Obama wanted air time on the major stations tonight for a news conference and all the networks said no. Seems that America wants to see American Idol more than they want to see him. The masses have spoken. 'Bout time he got knocked down to earth. Yep, he's human and it looks like the shine has worn off. The Fox network issued a statement Monday saying it will air regular programming Wednesday night instead of President Obama’s 100-day news conference. “The Fox Broadcasting Company will not air the Presidential News Conference on Wednesday, April 29 at 8:00 PM (ET),” Fox said via a carefully worded statement. “Fox’s sister networks, Fox News Channel and the Fox Business Network, will air the press conference in its entirety. Fox will be alerting viewers with an onscreen graphic at the top of the 8:00 PM (ET) hour that the press conference is available on Fox News Channel and the Fox Business Network.” This is the first time since Barack Obama took office that one of the big four broadcast networks has refused the President’s request for primetime coverage. The decision not to cover the presser was most likely made because Fox, unlike ABC, CBS and NBC, does not have its own news division to offer varied opinions on the press conference. Fox News Channel gets more viewers for its coverage of these events than the Fox network. Watch Breaking News There’s also this little thing…it is understood that broadcasting a Presidential news conference costs the networks an estimated $10 million in lost advertising revenue. With Obama’s news conference slated for the start of ratings “sweeps” weeks - where advertising rates are generally set - Fox won’t lose the revenue-generating hour as ‘Lie to Me‘ is scheduled to run with (Boom!) ‘American Idol‘ just after - and on time. ABC, CBS and NBC will carry President Obama’s telecast as will the aforementioned Fox News Channel and the Fox Business Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 It probably wouldn't have been so bad if they had let it be known what was GOING to happen and that it was going to be a Photo Op. They could have made it a great thing, letting people know in advance so they to could have a chance to take Photos themselves. But instead, they made everyone involved keep it Hush-Hush...... While they told the FAA, Military, and the NY City Police yes they asked that it not be known to others as is usual procedure for Air Force One which I totally understand...now what I don't understand, and have to wonder why no one, in all these departments or any level of the chain of command, expressed a concern, the NYPD not even telling the Mayor? I mean, I do think a lot of people are really blowing it WAY WAY out of proportion for reasons not stated, but common sense would tell you this is just stupid. Did no one in a position of authority sit back, close there eyes and imagine this thinking "what would I assume if I say this out my window"? I think the guy that planned and ordered this will soon resign it showed a lack of good judgement at best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 While they told the FAA, Military, and the NY City Police yes they asked that it not be known to others as is usual procedure for Air Force One which I totally understand...now what I don't understand, and have to wonder why no one, in all these departments or any level of the chain of command, expressed a concern, the NYPD not even telling the Mayor? I mean, I do think a lot of people are really blowing it WAY WAY out of proportion for reasons not stated, but common sense would tell you this is just stupid. Did no one in a position of authority sit back, close there eyes and imagine this thinking "what would I assume if I say this out my window"? I think the guy that planned and ordered this will soon resign it showed a lack of good judgement at best! It might be "usual procedure", but this was done just for a "Photo Op". Obama was no where around let alone on the Plane. Everyone should have known in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 AND anybody who sat in Jacob Javits Convention Center with me and all those iron workers and firefighters and cops and construction workers for 2 days trying to be allowed down to ground zero to help out only to be turned away and sent home and told there was nothing we could do can comment, THE REST OF YOU CAN SHUT UP! Sorry, In the buisness we call that freelancing, its dangerous and wrong! Those of us who whanted to go but, had the discipline to do the right thing have every right to comment. I will give Obamma a pass n this one. Although, If it were Bush, many here on the other side would not. Whoever set this up is a bonehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 It might be "usual procedure", but this was done just for a "Photo Op". Obama was no where around let alone on the Plane. Everyone should have known in advance. I don't agree and especially for a one time photo-op. It's not worth re-evaluating risk and the costs etc., when it simply should have been conducted elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Sorry, In the buisness we call that freelancing, its dangerous and wrong! Those of us who whanted to go but, had the discipline to do the right thing have every right to comment. I will give Obamma a pass n this one. Although, If it were Bush, many here on the other side would not. Whoever set this up is a bonehead Those who "wanted" to go? Sounds nice at dinner, but doesnt count for anything. Those who were here DID GO and sat in Jacob Javits eating military rations FOR DAYS waiting for an opportunity to help, and as far as Im concerned when someone says we getting excited NOW for nothing about a low flying plane in restricted airspace less than 1 mile from where 9/11 happened and for an inappropriate photo op..... I'll say what I like to set the record straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Those who "wanted" to go? Sounds nice at dinner, but doesnt count for anything. Those who were here DID GO and sat in Jacob Javits eating military rations FOR DAYS waiting for an opportunity to help, and as far as Im concerned when someone says we getting excited NOW for nothing about a low flying plane in restricted airspace less than 1 mile from where 9/11 happened and for an inappropriate photo op..... I'll say what I like to set the record straight. I dint tell you that you couldnt, you told us not to say anything. I agree with you as far as the flyover and, I see where New Yorkers would be scared and, I would too. Damn dumb. As far as self deploying, I stand by my statement. It was much harder to do the right thing than to do the wrong thing. I know, I do it for a living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I dint tell you that you couldnt, you told us not to say anything. I agree with you as far as the flyover and, I see where New Yorkers would be scared and, I would too. Damn dumb. As far as self deploying, I stand by my statement. It was much harder to do the right thing than to do the wrong thing. I know, I do it for a living Im not trying to pick a fight man, this is one that still hits very close to home. In the hours afterward, no one here knew what to do, I couldnt reach my Mom till more than 12 hours afterwards (she worked in Manhattan at the time) so we did what we could, offer our manpower to help out. Turns out the government couldnt even decide if they did need us or not for 2 days. Maybe they would have, on that we went. Turns out they didnt. Lucky for me, many of the first responders are already gone from the ill effects of the air EVERYONE WAS SAYING WOULDNT HURT US. There was no self deployment,....they put out the word here for all kinds of help here at first. We responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007GT Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I don't agree and especially for a one time photo-op. It's not worth re-evaluating risk and the costs etc., when it simply should have been conducted elsewhere. Glenn Beck Photoshopped it and had the finished product on his show tonight. It looked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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