AFBLUE Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Maybe this is old news but I don't recall seeing it before. According to FRPP http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=8977 http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9095 Black OEM wheels weigh 30.2lbs each. Silver OEM wheels on the White, Blue, and Orange SGTs weigh 28.4lbs each. Thus Black SGTs with the OEM wheels have 7.2lbs more unsprung weight than their counterparts. Just having fun. FYI: The GT500 OEM wheels are listed as 34lbs each http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9485 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyPilot Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 LOL, I don't normally get into these my color is faster then yours but..... The extra 28 pounds is to handicap the black cars so the others can keep up. :jackinbox: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingbadgers2001 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Oh boy here we go............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shelbygt/superbee Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 LOL, I don't normally get into these my color is faster then yours but..... The extra 28 pounds is to handicap the black cars so the others can keep up. :jackinbox: Check the math again...It's 7.2 pounds total...Anyway I got plenty of extra driver weight to offset anyones 7lbs of wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Wonder why? I know paint weighs a little bit, but.... The next time I have a silver wheel / tire off I'll try to weigh both if I can somehow. edit - Incidentally, I read in Grassroots Motorsports once, an article about setting up Mustang GT's for autocrossing. They switched their car wheels from 18" to 17", and by doing so picked up 2/10ths in the 1/4 mile. Anyway, the point is that lighter wheels do make a difference, so yes, this does prove that the white SGT's are faster. Someday there needs to be a Black vs. White SGT drag competition somewhere - call it the Checkerboard Nationals or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowCar Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I have a black car and heavy rims with a automatic??? How come Im so fast? :burnout: I get a kick out of the color debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Someday there needs to be a Black vs. White SGT drag competition somewhere - call it the Checkerboard Nationals or something. Good luck finding a stock example of each at this point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshawk Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Maybe this is old news but I don't recall seeing it before. According to FRPP http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=8977 http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9095 Black OEM wheels weigh 30.2lbs each. Silver OEM wheels on the White, Blue, and Orange SGTs weigh 28.4lbs each. Thus Black SGTs with the OEM wheels have 7.2lbs more unsprung weight than their counterparts. Just having fun. FYI: The GT500 OEM wheels are listed as 34lbs each http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9485 I thought the reason White and Blue SGTs are lighter was because there's only air between the ears of their drivers? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCMM Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Good luck finding a stock example of each at this point! Mine is black and completely stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Mine is black and completely stock. well, if we could just get you to drive to Bobs house then we'd be all set! Any plans to visit Connecticut?..........with your Shelby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougsBadBlackMustang Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 ANYTIME......ANYWHERE ......ANY COLOR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 ANYTIME......ANYWHERE ......ANY COLOR! sorry, not stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewheels Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 By this reasoning if it's the paint on the wheels making them heavier, how much heavier then is a black car vs the other colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmartin Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 FYI, If you all didn't already know. SAI and Ford had to increase the weight of the wheels due to such unbelievable acceleration that litterly would blow the tires right off the car. So they used higher density paint on the rims to slow down wheel speed on the Black SGT's, otherwise it just wouldn't be safe to market this car. And that is my story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miked87 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I have a 08 BLUE Shelby and it can kick the crap out of any white or black 07 Shelby. WHY you ask.. Well because my dad drives a tank, and my mom can kick your moms butt.. That is why!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmartin Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I would so love to own a tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMORINE Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I would so love to own a tank. i would like a 700 ton war machine please!!!!!!!!!!! on second thought..... i want the mustang from death race!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no wait i want the deathstar!!!!!!! i'll gut it and build a race track inside of it! cut me off at an intersection will you!?! eat lead you pos honda! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmartin Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 What I see myself as in my SGT. what my wife says I am in my SGT. Next time she can walk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCMM Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 well, if we could just get you to drive to Bobs house then we'd be all set! Any plans to visit Connecticut?..........with your Shelby? Boy I'd like to. Sounds like a good experiment to see if the paint does make a difference. But in this case it wouldn't because I'd have my wife race and she's about 100 pounds soaking wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEDEMAN Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Maybe this is old news but I don't recall seeing it before. According to FRPP http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=8977 http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9095 Black OEM wheels weigh 30.2lbs each. Silver OEM wheels on the White, Blue, and Orange SGTs weigh 28.4lbs each. Thus Black SGTs with the OEM wheels have 7.2lbs more unsprung weight than their counterparts. Just having fun. FYI: The GT500 OEM wheels are listed as 34lbs each http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9485 Just solve the entire problem and buy the 20's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Just solve the entire problem and buy the 20's! Yeah Black Chrome 20" wheels weighing in at 40lbs per wheel. That will improve my performance. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildAzCat Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Mine is black and completely stock. Yours is still stock because you just joined TeamShelby.com on March 5th. Give it a little time and you wont be able to say that any more. :happy feet: This site is poison for the pocket book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCMM Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Yours is still stock because you just joined TeamShelby.com on March 5th. Give it a little time and you wont be able to say that any more. :happy feet: This site is poison for the pocket book... I'll buy that quote. Everytime you guys start talking about what you're working on or have completed it starts turning the gears in my head! Any mods will be up to my better half. After all; it is her car. Examples: Don't take my car. It will get dusty. Take yours. Did you change the oil in my car? When are you going to put that lower grill in my car? (This is done by the way) Sound familiar guys?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump_breaker Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I'll buy that quote. Everytime you guys start talking about what you're working on or have completed it starts turning the gears in my head! Any mods will be up to my better half. After all; it is her car. Examples: Don't take my car. It will get dusty. Take yours. Did you change the oil in my car? When are you going to put that lower grill in my car? (This is done by the way) Sound familiar guys?? Wait until she learns about gears, tunes and superchargers...... Of course you may want to leave some articles conveniently placed in strategic locations to speed up the process. :devil: My car was bought for my wife as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmate17 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Need help have a neighbor who has a srt charger keeps after me to go to the track, says he just wants to blow the Shelby off the car. ? is will i beat him being new to all this car stuff. How much power dose a stock shelby gt really have. Other question can you double turbo a automatic. Again keep in mind new at this. My husband has found a gt500 black on black and wants me to trade but love my car and from what i have heard not making anymore so would like to keep it and just put more power into it any idea's. Any help is great... Just try not to laugh remember i am all blonde when it comes to cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Yours is still stock because you just joined TeamShelby.com on March 5th. Give it a little time and you wont be able to say that any more. :happy feet: This site is poison for the pocket book... Mines stock and I've been here almost 2 years. That because I started out broke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejrail Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 LOL, I don't normally get into these my color is faster then yours but..... The extra 28 pounds is to handicap the black cars so the others can keep up. :jackinbox: My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump_breaker Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Need help have a neighbor who has a srt charger keeps after me to go to the track SRT8 vs stock SGT automatic - you will loose in a straight line. Tune and gears or supercharge and it may be a different story. Find a nice twisty road and you will have to wait for him to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmartin Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Swap out the black rims to the chrome rims. You'll smoke him by lightening up your car so much. In a more serious note, the automatic with a change of your engine tune, a 3:73 gear, some good drag radials, you can run with or beat your neighbor in the quarter. But....he wouldn't even see your rear tailights in any form of a road race, which the SGT was made for. A good apples to apples comparison in the quarter, both in stock form would be a GT500 to a Charger. Niether can quite run with your SGT in stock form on a road course. FYI SGT or GT500 gotta luv em. :happy feet: Oh, yes, you can twin turbo an automatic (probably could produce more boost than your stock engine would/could need, also fairly expensive unless your going all out. Not recommended with the stock transmision, but would be much less likely to break parts with an automatic). If your set on it, install a supercharger then you will see your neighbors headlights all the time. He would be.. ing his eyes out. It is all about what you want and how much you want to spend and how much you like working on your car. No matter what kind of car you have, you abuse it, you break it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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