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Sorry for the delay posting these -- been a busy week catching up on stuff.

 

Iill put up a series of posts each with a common thread.

 

First, let me say that any comments I provide are just a produc of my own warped mind. In that vein, you'll notice that with some eries of pictures I'll post a pic of the floor plaque that accompanied the car. You'll notice they are in one of three colors: blue, white, red. This could be Ford being patriotic, but more likely it conveys information on how close to Ford the project was/is (in the past Ford has used various labelling and color schemes). Again, this is just my warped mind from atending SEMAs past and from getting a feel for Ford 'erpsonality' for some decades ;-) My take is as follows: blue-sheets are close to Ford heart; projects wither done by (or at the direct behest of) Ford or expressly intended to convey that the car is real -- anything from something in production (e.g. GT500) or likely going into production (again, just my take -- there are many more than I can post but if you crack the code let me know -- from SEMAs past there always seems to be SOME real meaning/purpose). Red seems to be vehicles that, while not presently in production, portend a future Ford offering. White seems to be vehicles that, while the base is in production, this veriation might be a future variation Ford favors or a concept of such.

 

You'll also notice the floor-plaque information sheets all have a large watermarked number in the backround: my take is that's just to highlight the theme. For example the 32 Ford is "32", but the Deuce is "02." But notice sometimes it's subtle: the Sport Track Muscle Truck is "3" (for 3-valve, but the sheets gives NO engine info, hmmm -- not an accident!). The Galpin 2007 Boss is "302" but the FR500 is "5.0" and the RUSH buggy is "2.6" (referring to its lbs/HP ratio! 1300lbs/500hp s/c'd new-3.5/V6), but the color is blue!!! Could this mean Ford seriously plans to build a RUSH-buggy? Not! Could it hint Ford is planning a force-fed version of the new 3.5V6 in a Fusion, maybe? That'd be my bet!

 

Remember cars like out GT500 was shown encoded at SEMA 2 years ago -- there's long history of this gameplay and, even if you crack the code, Ford can, and will, change their mind as they see fit. But the game is, well, a chance for som einsight -- if you crack the code. My takes above are just that, so don't place a lot of weight on it.

 

Ok, here we go... I'll start with the 40th anniversary Shelby.... gotta start somewhere ;) in the next post... give me afew minutes to load the pix....

 

Just to put us in the right frame of mind, here's a composite I did from several photos of '32 Ford pedal cars. The emblem in the middle is from another photo of the diff cover on the Edsel Ford '32 Deuce JDRF Charity car (pics coming).

 

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Btw, Ford also commissioned Boyd Coddington to do one which The Discovery Channel aired a week or so before SEMA. As soon as I saw that show I commented to my wife that it's not nice to 'skunk' Ford like that. Boyd's pedal car was not put on display! There was room for a 5th car. Coincidence? Dunno.... probably just my warped mind again ;-)

 

Have fun! Be patient with me -- this will take a while...

Fyi, here's a link to Ford Media site listing all the cars shown at Ford SEMA. It would seem a couple didn't make it (or possibly I missed 'em). I'll just be posting Mustangs and Hotrod pix, but if you're interested in a particular car/truck, let me know -- if I have one, I'll post it. A couple of the Volvo rods were slick and potent!

 

http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=24700

 

Oh, and <bow your heads> the man himself ...at SEMA; he was enjoying his signing as much as the hundreds who waited in line -- one helluva nice person... I should look so good at 83!

 

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Ok, let's start with the 40th Anniversary Shelby GT500. My pesonal preferences are not for add ons but, I have to admit, it looked rally great as a black vert with the American Racing Razors.

 

aluminum hood grilles (saves .12 grams each <lol> hey, that's about .000006235sec faster in the qtr ;)

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nice razors -- I mentioned to Gary Patterson (SA VP of Sales, I believe) that the webpage was MIA. He said there was a supply problem but that problem is now fixed and they are available to order)

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Borla tips

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Carbon-fiber splitter

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Dash gauge cluster (boost/fuel/oil) -- damn, fuel presure sure lingers! ;-)

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Front quarter

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40th anniversay "wings" (oops, there's goes that .000004632 sec!)

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S-H-E-L-B-Y

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Cobra 40th side 'flags'

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Floor plaque (list of features, etc.)

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I'm sure I missed some important items, like the door handles <sorry, couldn't resist> ...if interested in more info there is a glossy info sheet from Shelby Autos, LV -- check the website too.

 

I must admit, they did a nice job of it. Now, where's the beef?! :) Coming soon??? :spiteful:

 

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Wow those pedal cars are really nice. How do you put a bunch of pics. together like that? Oh sorry for the question...carry on.

 

 

Thanks, sc...

 

just the magic of photoshop ;)

 

The lower-right one was done by Foose... I kinda liked the 'rat-rod' ...

 

-Dan

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Boss 302,

 

then...

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and 'now'

...a really sweet S197 'Boss 302' done by Galpin Auto Sports (van Nuys, CA). Great attention to detail and race-readiness, right down to the battery wrap. See the (red) floor plaque below for more details -- nice job G.A.S.!!!

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It sports the milder 390HP new Boss 302 crate motor (see also the 500HP Boss 331cid crate below)

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....but notice the floor plaque is red -- likely this is not the real deal 2007 Boss 302 (the car) -- assuming there is one? ...the Boss motor sure is real tho.

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And the top-dog Boss331 (Get a copy of Januare 5.0 Mustangs and fast Fords for a good article on the Boss motor) was written before first production though -- there's many improvements over the original in oiling, cooling and overall beefiness -- high-strength [diesel steel] etc....and the Z-heads, nodular iron 4-bolt main caps (2,3,4) with outers splayed... sweet stuff!

 

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Note the bore/stroke (4.25x3.10) -- ammazing what siamesing will permit. The vintage was 4x3 (302cid).

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This makes the Sportsman block and even the FRPP R-block look puny by comparo ;-) <sigh>

 

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<gotta take a dinner brake now before wifey gets upset... back later with more...>

 

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Boss 302,

 

then...

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and 'now'

...a really sweet S197 'Boss 302' done by Galpin Auto Sports (van Nuys, CA). Great attention to detail and race-readiness, right down to the battery wrap. See the (red) floor plaque below for more details -- nice job G.A.S.!!!

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It sports the milder 390HP new Boss 302 crate motor (see also the 500HP Boss 331cid crate below)

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....but notice the floor plaque is red -- likely this is not the real deal 2007 Boss 302 (the car) -- assuming there is one? ...the Boss motor sure is real tho.

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And the top-dog Boss331 -- 4.25" x 3.10" (amazing what siamesing will do -- this puppy will rev!!!) Get a copy of Januare 5.0 Mustangs and fast Fords for a good article on the Boss motor )was written before first production though)

 

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Great information. Thanks for the inside scoop.

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The gauge cluster looks much better than I thought it would! I noticed that the 40th add ons next to the cobra were not lined up perfect!

 

 

You have a keen eye, Rob ;) I suspect a little sticky stuff will fix that unless the part is allite off-shape -- hard to tell even in person (I thought the part edge shape was a little off though). I also noticed the splice on the guage cluster to the dash, clever as it is, is still slightly noticeable -- maybe because that one is likely the first?

 

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Thanks all for the kind words -- it was fun...

 

ok, I''ll get back to posting pix now :headspin: ;-)

 

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You have a keen eye, Rob ;) I suspect a little sticky stuff will fix that unless the part is allite off-shape -- hard to tell even in person (I thought the part edge shape was a little off though). I also noticed the splice on the guage cluster to the dash, clever as it is, is still slightly noticeable -- maybe because that one is likely the first?

 

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ok, I''ll get back to posting pix now :headspin: ;-)

 

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I also like how they give us a 35 PSI Boost Gauge for a car that only produces 8.5 PSI :doh: so it looks like it never really goes up on the gauge

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gauge cluster is nice -

 

I don't care for the Boss rims much -

 

Boss engine sounds tasty -

 

Prices?....

 

 

Bryan, the block is around $1,500 (and worth twice that!)

 

I heard the engines go from about $4500 (basic Boss) to the 500HP Boss331 at around $10K -- don't know if formal prices have been set yet. Here's a link to the FRPP Boss302 site, but it doesn't appear to be fully updated yet (videos are great tho ;-): http://www.fordracingparts.com/jumppages/boss.asp?x=1

 

-Dan

 

 

 

 

I also like how they give us a 35 PSI Boost Gauge for a car that only produces 8.5 PSI :doh: so it looks like it never really goes up on the gauge

 

 

Maybe they wanted to leave room for the twin-screw and vortechs that are likely coming from FRPP and Roush? :spiteful:

 

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Here's some pix of the GT500 Road Racer, a.k.a. man-racer. I begged several different Ford folk to open the hood but "no can do" was the word. Dan Davis was reportedly "in the house" but no one knew where (not FRPP, Ford or Shelby folk). <love that red tow-ring in the front fascia ;-)

 

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Blue plaque (and 5.0 watermark) to be expected here, but this raises an interesting question: What will likely power a Roush/Yates-prepped Ford entry into TransAm racing if the CID-limit is 350 or so? Will it be this manracer 5.0 modular? Doubtfull! Or maybe the new Boss 331 crate which is 500HP out of the box and probably 800HP in full race? The Galpin Boss 302 and the videos on FRPP site might be hinting the latter, but.... Problem: Ford would have to homologate the Boss in an S197 to do that, would they not?

 

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Maybe that's why they showed the Galpin Auto Sports "2007 Boss 302" (red plaque) variant instead of an SVT "blue label" <lol> ...or is the Galpin the actual stealth variant we anticipated??? -- i.e. is Ford holding their engine/branding/venue options open until camaro and challenger arrive and a sanctioning body is found for the "professional racer?" SVToA inteview with Ford implied that search/discussions were actively underway (several months ago already) and Dan Davis was quoted to the effect that he'd like to sell the whole [manracer] package and believes there's a market at about $200K/copy [i'm paraphrasing from memory].

 

Guess we'll have to wait one more year? Does anyone know precisely when/where the Boss 302 was intro'd. Maybe the real deal (as opposed to the Galpin variant) will not even be possible until the above questions are answered. 2009 is awefully close for production/homologation purposes!

 

And, is the "big-block" Boss coming in '09 [ahem, possibly...] actually to be the hi-deck (old 351 design) version of this low-deck Boss but with OHC??? Race shops already push that geopetry to 440cid for the drags, but at 351 it would be a logical follow-on to the 331Boss -- just like, well, 40 years ago!

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<edit: btw, the line in the background [of the second pic above] is for the signing/pic with Carroll -- from 2:30-closing on Thursday... very nicely done.

 

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In addition to the couple thousand cars shown inside there were also hundreds on display outside, from monster trucks to 1100HP modulars in early stangs to every historical muscle car imagineable (yeah, even 455 GrandAm Buicks <lol>) to F650 six-door luxury Ford pickups (that was actually in the Ford 'tent' inside!)

 

In the Ford corale outside were some nostalgic pairings for our enjoyment -- a few offered below:

 

A 66 and '06 Hertz Shelby line up...

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66 Shelby GT360H and 2006 Shelby GT-H

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And Parnelli's actual '69 #15 Boss he drove for the last four races of '69 and on to domination (prepped by Bud Moore) as a Boss351 in the 1970 season. I find it interesting that Ford chose to pair that car with the Saleen PJ (the only break from the air-tight true-Ford pairing of all cars shown -- maybe because there isn't yet a modern sequel and showing the actual original PJ TransAm car was felt essential for some reason? Hmmmm. I'm surprised it wasn't shown inside -- maybe we'll have to wait a year or two ;)

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And, of course, a '68 Shelby GT500 SCJ and '07/'08 was undeniable (man, the lines on the '68 never get old, do they? But, yes, I'm biased ;-)

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In addition to the couple thousand cars shown inside there were also hundreds on display outside, from monster trucks to 1100HP modulars in early stangs to every historical muscle car imagineable (yeah, even 455 GrandAm Buicks <lol>) to F650 six-door luxury Ford pickups (that was actually in the Ford 'tent' inside!)

 

In the Ford corale outside were some nostalgic pairings for our enjoyment -- a few offered below:

 

A 66 and '06 Hertz Shelby line up...

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66 Shelby GT360H and 2006 Shelby GT-H

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And Parnelli's actual '69 #15 Boss he drove for the last four races of '69 and on to domination (prepped by Bud Moore) as a Boss351 in the 1970 season. I find it interesting that Ford chose to pair that car with the Saleen PJ (the only break from the air-tight true-Ford pairing of all cars shown -- maybe because there isn't yet a modern sequel and showing the actual original PJ TransAm car was felt essential for some reason? Hmmmm. I'm surprised it wasn't shown inside -- maybe we'll have to wait a year or two ;)

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And, of course, a '68 Shelby GT500 SCJ and '07/'08 was undeniable (man, the lines on the '68 never get old, do they? But, yes, I'm biased ;-)

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That Grabber Orange Boss 302 is really sweet looking. I would love to have that ride.

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I'd love to see that man racer hood design available on the GT500 as a option. :drool: It Reminds me of the 68 KR hood thats probably just a coincidence though. :D

 

How about a 2008 1/2 Galpin inspired boss ? The 302 was around in 68 and the Boss was part of the body redesign effort in 69.

 

I also think your right 68fastback Ford is probably waiting to see what transpires with Dodge and Chevy before

before putting eveything on the table.

 

 

We just have to wait and see I guess :D

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I like the Boss but that baby blue color is gotta go. :(

 

I won't comment on the color yet...need to let it grow on me...but I will say that I LOVE the specs on the car. Depending on price and a few other specs (such as weight), I may even prefer that car to the GT500. I would imagine the torque would be sky high given the oversquare nature of the engine....particularly the 331 CID.

 

I'd love to see the interior also. That shaker hood is awesome...just like the old ones. I also love the striping. It also has a few of the improvements we've been discussing, such as aluminum d-shaft and 4:56 gears..wow.

 

Dave

 

I also like how they give us a 35 PSI Boost Gauge for a car that only produces 8.5 PSI :doh: so it looks like it never really goes up on the gauge

 

It may be inches of mercury rather than PSI...it doesn't say on the gauge. 9 PSI is about 18 inches of mercury. Only guessing here...giving them the benefit of the doubt.

 

Dave

 

Is this a 5 speed with 4:56 gears ,won`t pass to many gas stations

`Ruf` hows your gas mileage with the 4:10`s

 

Not clear. There are two different TKO 600 transmissions. One has a .82 OD, and the other has a .64. Need more info.

 

Dave

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