CANADA GUY Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Is it just the cold air intake which is different between the 2007-2009 and the 2010 engine. I heard that the pulley size is different as well making more boost. IS THIS TRUE ?? My 2010 spec sheet shows that the blower makes 9.0 psi . Is this the same ? Can a ROMEO ENGINE BUILDER RESPOND WITH ANY ENGINE DIFFRENCES ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA SCOTTY Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Is it just the cold air intake which is different between the 2007-2009 and the 2010 engine. I heard that the pulley size is different as well making more boost. IS THIS TRUE ?? My 2010 spec sheet shows that the blower makes 9.0 psi . Is this the same ? Can a ROMEO ENGINE BUILDER RESPOND WITH ANY ENGINE DIFFRENCES ?? YES IT IS THE FORD RACING COLD AIR INTAKE ALONG WITH A BETTER CALIBRATION TUNE. AND NO THE PULLEY SIZE IS NOT BIGGER IT IS THE SAME AS 2007-2009 SCOTTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADA GUY Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 So Then the KR AND THE 2010 ENGINES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 So Then the KR AND THE 2010 ENGINES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME ?? Thats right they both have the FRPP CAI to give them 540 H.p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 So Then the KR AND THE 2010 ENGINES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME ?? NO. The powerplant remains a twin cam 5.4L V8 with a supercharger. New additions to the power plant include knock sensors, the aforementioned cold-air intake and a lower restriction exhaust system. The updates bump output from from 500 hp at 6,000 rpm to 540 hp at 6,200 rpm. Twisting force also goes from 480 lb-ft at 4,500 rpm to 510 lb-ft at the same peak speed. Unfortunately, one aspect that didn't change is the cast iron engine block. The aluminum block that was used in the Ford GT supercar had a dry sump system that can't be packaged in the Mustang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADA GUY Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. A technical question IF I COULD IS how much boostcan safely be acheived upwards of te 9psi to give a little extra oomph !! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Oh B Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. A technical question IF I COULD IS how much boostcan safely be acheived upwards of te 9psi to give a little extra oomph !! ? That cast iron block and forged internald should safely allow for 15-18 psi, as long as a proper, custom tune is written for it. Going much higher than 15-18 psi will result in very short-lived "extra oomph." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyman Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Raising the induction pressure to 15 psi is a major increase in ooomph! Inexpensive and simple to do. This is one of the huge advantages of purchasing a factory supercharged vehicle with a strong rototating assembly in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADA GUY Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Raising the induction pressure to 15 psi is a major increase in ooomph! Inexpensive and simple to do. This is one of the huge advantages of purchasing a factory supercharged vehicle with a strong rototating assembly in place. WHAT WOULD BE THE HP AT 15 PSI ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whipple Charged Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 WHAT WOULD BE THE HP AT 15 PSI ??? Using a 15% loss factor would be approx. 764 flywheel hp. Using a 12% which Ford states the loss is, 738 flywheel hp. With the use of the knock sensor, another 25-40hp can be achieved so add that to your numbers. Before the knock sensors, cals had to be safe so they never detonated, leaving a big margin. With the knock sensors, the level can be pushed greater. But the cal is more critical. Were working with Ford engineers for an incredible calibration. Thanks, Dustin Whipple Superchargers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr1000 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Raising the induction pressure to 15 psi is a major increase in ooomph! Inexpensive and simple to do. This is one of the huge advantages of purchasing a factory supercharged vehicle with a strong rototating assembly in place. So, how would you go about doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 So, how would you go about doing this? CAI 2.6" s/c pulley Innovations West +10% balancer pulley That should get you there. I'm pulling 13 lbs with this setup at 6,000 ft elevation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tglockner Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 NO. The powerplant remains a twin cam 5.4L V8 with a supercharger. New additions to the power plant include knock sensors, the aforementioned cold-air intake and a lower restriction exhaust system. The updates bump output from from 500 hp at 6,000 rpm to 540 hp at 6,200 rpm. Twisting force also goes from 480 lb-ft at 4,500 rpm to 510 lb-ft at the same peak speed. Unfortunately, one aspect that didn't change is the cast iron engine block. The aluminum block that was used in the Ford GT supercar had a dry sump system that can't be packaged in the Mustang. Grabber, make sure you get the 2010 GT500 Packaging guide that was sent to Ford Dealers, this is a must have for you future 2010 GT500 owners. I have stashed ten of them for my 2010 customers. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Using a 15% loss factor would be approx. 764 flywheel hp. Using a 12% which Ford states the loss is, 738 flywheel hp. With the use of the knock sensor, another 25-40hp can be achieved so add that to your numbers. Before the knock sensors, cals had to be safe so they never detonated, leaving a big margin. With the knock sensors, the level can be pushed greater. But the cal is more critical. Were working with Ford engineers for an incredible calibration. Thanks, Dustin Whipple Superchargers Whats a knock sensor? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Whats a knock sensor? Thanks The knock sensor responds to spark knock caused by over advanced timing. A knock is a sudden increase in cylinder pressure caused by preignition of the air fuel mixture as the flame front moves out from the spark plug ignition point. Pressure waves in the chamber crash into the piston or cylinder walls resulting in a sound known as a knock or ping. This is caused by using a fuel with a low octane rating, overheating, or over advanced timing. sometimes it can be caused by hot carbon deposits on the piston or cylinder head that raise compression. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_a_knock_sensor_do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7MS Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 NO. Unfortunately, one aspect that didn't change is the cast iron engine block. The aluminum block that was used in the Ford GT supercar had a dry sump system that can't be packaged in the Mustang. Yes, the Ford GT block won't work in the GT500 (without work) but Ford does have an aluminum 5.4L wet sump block that is a direct replacement for the iron block, item #M-6010-GTWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthracer777 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Using a 15% loss factor would be approx. 764 flywheel hp. Using a 12% which Ford states the loss is, 738 flywheel hp. With the use of the knock sensor, another 25-40hp can be achieved so add that to your numbers. Before the knock sensors, cals had to be safe so they never detonated, leaving a big margin. With the knock sensors, the level can be pushed greater. But the cal is more critical. Were working with Ford engineers for an incredible calibration. Thanks, Dustin Whipple Superchargers Would the HP upgrade require a clutch upgrade as well?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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