wolftraplight Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 http://wtop.com/?sid=1604513&nid=114 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Doctor Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I think it's obviously racist, and I can't believe the paper is standing behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalwart Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I think it's obviously racist, and I can't believe the paper is standing behind it. HUH? I frankly can't believe you think there is anything racial about it? Care to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Doctor Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 HUH? I frankly can't believe you think there is anything racial about it? Care to explain? Are you serious? Chimps/apes have been used for decades to refer to blacks, and the stimulus plan was the product of a black President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Are you serious? Chimps/apes have been used for decades to refer to blacks, and the stimulus plan was the product of a black President. Actually, the so-called "stimulus" package is actually Pelosi and the House's plan, not Obama's. I don't think he even read it before he signed it. So, the cartoon is hardly racist. Even if it were Obama, calling him a monkey hardly qualifies as a racial slur. I've heard of people of all races, sizes and shapes who have been called monkeys. Why there is so much reliance on this age-old race card, I'll never understand. Of course, the liberal media will push on folks that this was a racist cartoon in order to forward their agenda, and unfortunately some people will actually believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 And how would you interprit the drawing?????? Mr. Fairness????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 And how would you interprit the drawing?????? Mr. Fairness????????? Don't know if your "Mr. Fairness" was to me or not, but....I interpret it to meant that the so-called Stimulus Package was created by monkees. Also, the cartoon idea was partially a result of the chimanzee attack in CT yesterday, wherein a chimp was shot after seriously attacking a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Don't know if your "Mr. Fairness" was to me or not, but....I interpret it to meant that the so-called Stimulus Package was created by monkees. Also, the cartoon idea was partially a result of the chimanzee attack in CT yesterday, wherein a chimp was shot after seriously attacking a woman. I have to agree. I don't think that race was involved in this cartoon, but using the CT chimp story for this I think is in very poor taste. I think that was a pretty sad story about the chimp other than I don't think that people should own wild animals. Those kind of things happen with wild animals. But using this person's misery in a cartoon the next day is pretty week at best, and then linking it politically is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalwart Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Heaven forbid we offend some primates or Nancy and Harry. :rolleyes: Some people here are such thin skinned sissys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Heaven forbid we offend some primates or Nancy and Harry. :rolleyes: Some people here are such thin skinned sissys. No sissy here: Just wondering how "BIGGOTS" interprit this toon??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 No sissy here: Just wondering how "BIGGOTS" interprit this toon??????????? You have no right to call someone a bigot here DDT> Not sure what makes you qualified. It was an obvious link the the situation in CT and the inteligence of the two people who wrote that so called stimulous package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 You have no right to call someone a bigot here DDT> Not sure what makes you qualified. It was an obvious link the the situation in CT and the inteligence of the two people who wrote that so called stimulous package I did not name any names but getting defensive is sometimes a sign of guilt?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I think it's obviously racist, and I can't believe the paper is standing behind it. HUH? I frankly can't believe you think there is anything racial about it? Care to explain? Are you serious? Chimps/apes have been used for decades to refer to blacks, and the stimulus plan was the product of a black President. And how would you interprit the drawing?????? Mr. Fairness????????? The first thing I thought of when I saw the Toon was of a TV Comedy Show where a Guy quit his Job and his BOSS said that he just quit a Job that is so easy that a Monkey could do it............................... If you think to hard about "ANYTHING", you can always make it into something that it is NOT.........just my 2 Cents. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOWN Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I've been involved in publishing articles that were misunderstood and back fired in a bad way. This might just be one of those - only the artist knows for a fact. Maybe the editor should have examined it more closely prior to publication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprint200 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I usually roll my eyes at anything the "reverend" Al gets all excited about. I consider him to be one of the care takers of racial hatred and bigotry in our times. However, anyone who is trained as a journalist or writer or anyone who is the least familiar with the history of literature in our country would know at a glance the implications of this cartoon. That an establishment of the liberal left would turn a blind eye toward the hypocrisy of condoning this in light of everything they rail against in the name of "open-mindedness" and "inclusion" is unfathomable. Whether you personally would make an association between the cartoon and racism is beside the point (and actually, I believe that it's a good thing if you didn't. That would show some progress...). The editors knew better. They were trained to know better and they printed it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver08elly Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Its a reference to the old phrase jump monkey jump. Like the old guys playin the music and he was in charge of the monkey who did what he told him, not racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I have to agree. I don't think that race was involved in this cartoon, but using the CT chimp story for this I think is in very poor taste. I think that was a pretty sad story about the chimp other than I don't think that people should own wild animals. Those kind of things happen with wild animals. But using this person's misery in a cartoon the next day is pretty week at best, and then linking it politically is even worse. Yes, I agree with you on that. I should have stated that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Just wondering how "BIGGOTS" interprit this toon??????????? I did not name any names but getting defensive is sometimes a sign of guilt?????????? You didn't name names, but you inferred that anyone who doesn't agree with you that this is a racially motivated cartoon is automatically a bigot. Which amusingly enough is good evidence that you are a bigot by definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Doctor Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Actually, the so-called "stimulus" package is actually Pelosi and the House's plan, not Obama's. I don't think he even read it before he signed it. So, the cartoon is hardly racist. Even if it were Obama, calling him a monkey hardly qualifies as a racial slur. I've heard of people of all races, sizes and shapes who have been called monkeys. Why there is so much reliance on this age-old race card, I'll never understand. Of course, the liberal media will push on folks that this was a racist cartoon in order to forward their agenda, and unfortunately some people will actually believe that. No matter who wrote it, it is referred to as Obama's stimulus plan: therefore, I stand by my opinion. The black gentleman that sits next to me at work agrees. If you don't then that's your right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Doctor Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 To clarify my position: Although I believe that the cartoon is obviously racist, that does not mean that I believe that is what the artist intended when he drew it. Only the artist knows for sure, but when others point it out, the paper should have stated their intentions and apologized for some people's misinterpretation of the paper's intent; not deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markham51 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I've been involved in publishing articles that were misunderstood and back fired in a bad way. This might just be one of those - only the artist knows for a fact. Maybe the editor should have examined it more closely prior to publication +1 I dont think there was any intent, but it could quite possibly be interpreted as some did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Sad...I don't have the time nor the inclination to keep editing out all these profanities. Let me say that reagardless of which side of the fence you fall on when you litter your posts with and or even , then you reflect poorly on yourself and your argument. You might want to read: http://www.persuasive.net/how-to-win-an-argument/ Can we debate like intelligent adults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 If this thread is going to need a bunch of editing every hour and the report button keeps getting pushed...I'm deleting it. This is a car site and we don't need members fighting with each other calling each other names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnsignaldelete Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 It is obvious, by the 'Lefts' reaction to a 'cartoon', that free speech and freedom of printed material is on the 'short' list to be censored by the, Socialist/Marxist agenda's of Obama, Pelosi and Reed. The 'Lefts' rage over a cartoon, regardless of it's, meaning is absolutely ridiculous. The harsh 'pin-point' focus on relatively obscure, statements, cartoons, or actions, by the Obama/Marxist's, and their leftie, Comrades should be a wake-up call , to all freedom supporting Americans. Of course if not for the Lefts propaganda machine, the 'Left Wing' media, none of us would have ever heard or seen, the silly cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver08elly Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I edited my post as i was wrong for sayin it and i apolodize. Sorry guys, i lost my temper as it was the last straw at the end of a very long and dissapointing day. I hate acusations of racisim. It just seems to me that the whole election we heard it wasnt about race and now thats all we hear about. Im fairly fed up with all of it and to keep it from blowing up like that again im stayin out of the political posts. Sorry again to u fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 No sissy here: Just wondering how "BIGGOTS" interprit this toon??????????? Is this part of the AG's saying that Americans are racial cowards? If you don't see this as racist, you're racist! If you see it as racist, it's proof that America has a long way to go. Nice lose-lose situation. Was Obama's "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig", sexist? Lets get real my fellow Americans! ***edit Where was this outrage and racist calling when the cartoon was of Sec. Rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_quik_pony Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Is this part of the AG's saying that Americans are racial cowards?If you don't see this as racist, you're racist! If you see it as racist, it's proof that America has a long way to go. Nice lose-lose situation. Was Obama's "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig", sexist? Lets get real my fellow Americans! ***edit Where was this outrage and racist calling when the cartoon was of Sec. Rice? Correct, putting lipstick on Sec. Rice would be putting lipstick on a ... Wait, I can't say that. I REALLY like bacon, and ham, and pork chops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_quik_pony Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 It is obvious, by the 'Lefts' reaction to a 'cartoon', that free speech and freedom of printed material is on the 'short' list to be censored by the, Socialist/Marxist agenda's of Obama, Pelosi and Reed. The 'Lefts' rage over a cartoon, regardless of it's, meaning is absolutely ridiculous. The harsh 'pin-point' focus on relatively obscure, statements, cartoons, or actions, by the Obama/Marxist's, and their leftie, Comrades should be a wake-up call , to all freedom supporting Americans. Of course if not for the Lefts propaganda machine, the 'Left Wing' media, none of us would have ever heard or seen, the silly cartoon. Eric Holder was actually referring to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Correct, putting lipstick on Sec. Rice would be putting lipstick on a ... Wait, I can't say that. I REALLY like bacon, and ham, and pork chops... Thank you! You prove my point nicely. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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