STLShelby Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Speaking of the so-called stimulus package, there are certain provisions which relate specifically to health care. It is believed by many (including myself), that much in this bill are intended to set up a framework for Obama's plan for nationalized health care. Some key points; 1. Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system after all of your medical records and data are collected by the federal government. 2. The Office of the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology will be established. 3. The National Coordinator of Health Information Technology will have a whole bureaucracy at his disposal that will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. 4. "The goal [of the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology] is to reduce costs and 'guide' your doctor's decisions". 5. These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, 'Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis" - Yes, that Daschle. 6. Hospitals and doctors that are not 'meaningful users' of the new system will face penalties. 'Meaningful user' isn't defined in the bill. 7. Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt. 8. The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit. Most of the above are excepts from the following Bloomberg article; http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aLzfDxfbwhzs In other words, the Federal Government will essentially be telling your doctor whether or not your treatment is worthwhile based on your ages. Think about the consequences and reality of this a draw your own conclusions. Meanwhile, I will pray that this section of the bill does not get passed. Don't just take my word for it - Here are all the various current versions of the bill for those who want to read them in detail; http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.+1: Advice: Save lots of money so you can afford your own treatments when you grow old!! I will bet those thieving politicians will be exempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Stimulus Package....what a joke. And whatever happened to that public 5 day review period that Obama promised anyway? “When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as president, you will have five days to look online and find out what’s in it before I sign it.” Barack Obama June 22, 2007, Manchester, N.H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_quik_pony Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Nice one-sided hatchet job there Newt! Outstanding! Focus on some of the silly stuff that makes up a miniscule portion of the bill to get it passed, for better or worse, so your pals can derail the entire package. :jackinbox: Like Rush said, the Republican party is perfectly willing to drag us all into a depression, and make sure this President fails, just to gain politically. They just can't have "the chosen one" as you guys call the President do anything to positively effect the economy. The mid terms will soon be here and unless they can keep this crisis going they will loose more seats and loose the ability to filibuster in the Senate. +1 They wouldn't dare vote for a plan that didn't put ANOTHER 350 BILLION dollars into the hands of their rich buddies...all unaccounted for, of course! Rush would rather see the world economy come crashing down..than admit fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Rush Limp D:censored:ck is an A$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "DITTO HEADS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Typical brainwashed Liberal-think. :koolaid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_quik_pony Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Typical brainwashed Liberal-think. :koolaid: The last eight years have treated us so well.. Papa Rush should be proud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 "PARANOID LOOSER DITTO HEADS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOWN Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 this says it ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnsignaldelete Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Rush Limp D:censored:ck is an A$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"DITTO HEADS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The last eight years have treated us so well..Papa Rush should be proud! "PARANOID LOOSER DITTO HEADS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Easy there, 'Comrades', your free, Obama, 'med's' and 'free-bee's, are on their way. yur, tax, tax, leftie pirates, have gotten their 'Billions' Yep, Rush, has millions of $'s, something you well-fair poacher's will never see. You and the other, Leftie Social/Marxist's clones, don't care about Tax's, cause, 'cus', you don't make any money. Now, take some of ur, food stamps, and go buy, some.malt liquor, kick back, and wait for OBAMA, to tell you how to wipe your tail-ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Easy there, 'Comrades', your free, Obama, 'med's' and 'free-bee's, are on their way.yur, tax, tax, leftie pirates, have gotten their 'Billions' Yep, Rush, has millions of $'s, something you well-fair poacher's will never see. You and the other, Leftie Social/Marxist's clones, don't care about Tax's, cause, 'cus', you don't make any money. " Now, take some of ur, food stamps, and go buy, some.malt liquor, kick back, and wait for OBAMA, to tell you how to wipe your tail-ends. "AND REMEMBER THIS IS ALL BS AND IM A PROUD DI CK HEAD" I believe you have intersepted the "Meds"?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XLR8 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 HiThis is bond987 I am new to this forum. I think this site is providing information about Stimulus Package. Now a days jobs are difficulty to get I think they are giving great opportunity who are searching jobs and whose lost jobs they require to see this site. ================= bond987 Job Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 What they need to do is give every tax paying American $25,000. That would give our economy a boost in the right direction. $1000 off our taxes next year and $895 Billion to the rich and famous isn't going to cut it. I think the "TARP BAIL OUT" should yield each tax payer +$250,000 Tax Free............... :D But their too Greedy........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnsignaldelete Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 QUOTE (turnsignaldelete @ Feb 21 2009, 05:00 PM) *Easy there, 'Comrades', your free, Obama, 'med's' and 'free-bee's, are on their way. yur, tax, tax, leftie pirates, have gotten their 'Billions' Yep, Rush, has millions of $'s, something you well-fair poacher's will never see. You and the other, Leftie Social/Marxist's clones, don't care about Tax's, cause, 'cus', you don't make any money. " Now, take some of ur, food stamps, and go buy, some.malt liquor, kick back, and wait for OBAMA, to tell you how to wipe your tail-ends. "AND REMEMBER THIS IS ALL BS AND IM A PROUD DI censored.gif CK HEAD" I believe you have intersepted the "Meds"?????????? ANYTHING ORIGINAL, NOPE, JUST THE SAME PATTERN OF ALTERING THE TRUTH. TYPICAL OF SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST TACTICS. AT LEAST YOUR TRUE TO YOUR PARTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 ANYTHING ORIGINAL, NOPE, JUST THE SAME PATTERN OF ALTERING THE TRUTH. TYPICAL OF SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST TACTICS. AT LEAST YOUR TRUE TO YOUR PARTY. Remember that "THE TRUTH IS A MATTER OF OPINION" Mr "JERK"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Let's take it down a notch shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XLR8 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 this says it ALL Dead on! Maybe if we changed our name to Mickey, we'd have a chance? Pelosi.bmp Pelosi.bmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnsignaldelete Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 this says it ALL ABSOLUTELY PERFECT ++++++750 BILLION :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 That is without a doubt the most spot-on cartoon I've seen in a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSNAKE Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 That is without a doubt the most spot-on cartoon I've seen in a long time! The sad part is there’s NOTHING funny about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007GT Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Remember that "THE TRUTH IS A MATTER OF OPINION" Mr "JERK"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The truth is the truth and never a matter of opinion. Liberals just like to wallow in moral relativism because they stand for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSNAKE Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Remember that "THE TRUTH IS A MATTER OF OPINION" Mr "JERK"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nah, that only holds TRUE for liberals. Oh, DDT didn't see you there buddy, how's it going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 The truth is the truth and never a matter of opinion. Liberals just like to wallow in moral relativism because they stand for nothing. And that is your opinian.................... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSNAKE Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 The truth is the truth and never a matter of opinion. Liberals just like to wallow in moral relativism because they stand for nothing. I TRIED to tell him during the election, he didn't believe me. Maybe he's being facetious; are you being facetious DDT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Nah, that only holds TRUE for liberals. Oh, DDT didn't see you there buddy, how's it going? Still staying optamistic as thats what we need to do............... B) Don't feel like crying with all the "REPUBS"............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I TRIED to tell him during the election, he didn't believe me. Maybe he's being facetious; are you being facetious DDT? Ever sit in on a "JURY TRIAL"?????????? How many versions/opinians of the truth do you get........Definately more than one!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSNAKE Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Still staying optamistic as thats what we need to do............... B) Don't feel like crying with all the "REPUBS"............. Fair enough, remember that come April 15 2010 :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSNAKE Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Ever sit in on a "JURY TRIAL"?????????? How many versions/opinians of the truth do you get........Definately more than one!!!!!!!!!!! No, but I once sat on a cactus, tried to look for variations of the truth…didn’t work, hurt like hell. Talk about a stimulus package, zowie! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSNAKE Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 OK, what comes on April 15th? (hint: big guy with his hand out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 No, but I once sat on a cactus, tried to look for variations of the truth…didn’t work, hurt like hell. Talk about a stimulus package, zowie! :o What were you thinking when you sat on the cactus?????????? Tell the "TRUTH" now......Or at least your opinian of it............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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