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I have 14,000mi with no issues. I have tested the clutch when the car is cold by pushing the peddle in and it hisses then stops when the peddle is down.

 

Yesterday I had time to actually drive the car. I would downshift and gun it with excelent throttle responce but then the clutch seemed to engage fully a second or two later.

 

Did this also when taking off and shifting into second and gunning it. Throttle responce is great then the clutch feels like it engages fully a second or two later.

 

I dont normally or have ever had a bad habit of riding the clutch but I dont want to say its not possible it is driver error. I do tend to rest my foot on the clutch lightly while driving.

 

It happened about three or four times yesterday, never before yesterday.

 

I will do some more hard driving today to see if it happens again. :shift:

 

Just wondering if anyone had similar issue when they started to have a problem with their clutch/tranny.

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Do this test.

 

Open your door. Keep it open.

 

Start your car.

 

leave it in nuetral.

 

Push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor.

 

After the clutch pedal hits the floor....LISTEN CAREFULLY.

 

If you hear a light hiss for 2 - 4 seconds, you have the TSB problem.

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....the reason I want you to keep the door open, is because you can hear it better that way. Lean your ear down torward the rocker panel and listen.

 

Also...Leaving your foot on the clutch a little bit while you drive is bad for the clutch. Very bad. :finger: Take your foot off it and put it to the left on the carpet dead pedal area.

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I have 14,000mi with no issues. I have tested the clutch when the car is cold by pushing the peddle in and it hisses then stops when the peddle is down.

 

Yesterday I had time to actually drive the car. I would downshift and gun it with excelent throttle responce but then the clutch seemed to engage fully a second or two later.

 

Did this also when taking off and shifting into second and gunning it. Throttle responce is great then the clutch feels like it engages fully a second or two later.

 

I dont normally or have ever had a bad habit of riding the clutch but I dont want to say its not possible it is driver error. I do tend to rest my foot on the clutch lightly while driving.

 

It happened about three or four times yesterday, never before yesterday.

 

I will do some more hard driving today to see if it happens again. :shift:

 

Just wondering if anyone had similar issue when they started to have a problem with their clutch/tranny.

Like Grabber (Rob) has already stated, but with me adding some drama to it, RESTING YOUR FOOT ON THE CLUTCH PEDAL IS A VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, BAD THING TO DO, AND WILL DEFINATELY BAKE THE CLUTCH FASTER THAN DOING 20 POWERSHIFTS.

 

Follow Rob's instructions regarding the hiss test, but from what you are describing (late or retarded engagement of the clutch on take off or during shifts) it sounds like your clutch is baked and on the verge of having a complete failure; and odds are that your CSC bearing (AKA throw out bearing) is probably gone too.

 

Try this test too. With an open road in front of you, get the car into third gear (doing about 50 or so) and then stomp down on the throttle for a moment. If the blower whines and your tach climbs rapidly but the speedo doesn't, then your clutch is definately baked and is slipping on you.

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Like Grabber (Rob) has already stated, but with me adding some drama to it, RESTING YOUR FOOT ON THE CLUTCH PEDAL IS A VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, BAD THING TO DO, AND WILL DEFINATELY BAKE THE CLUTCH FASTER THAN DOING 20 POWERSHIFTS.

 

Follow Rob's instructions regarding the hiss test, but from what you are describing (late or retarded engagement of the clutch on take off or during shifts) it sounds like your clutch is baked and on the verge of having a complete failure; and odds are that your CSC bearing (AKA throw out bearing) is probably gone too.

 

Try this test too. With an open road in front of you, get the car into third gear (doing about 50 or so) and then stomp down on the throttle for a moment. If the blower whines and your tach climbs rapidly but the speedo doesn't, then your clutch is definately baked and is slipping on you.

What Is TSB stand for?

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Do this test.

 

Open your door. Keep it open.

 

Start your car.

 

leave it in nuetral.

 

Push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor.

 

After the clutch pedal hits the floor....LISTEN CAREFULLY.

 

If you hear a light hiss for 2 - 4 seconds, you have the TSB problem.

 

Just did the test and it is hissing after the pedal hits the floor. Did not do this last week after I did the same test after reading a thread here.

 

As for me resting my foot on the clutch pedal, yes I know its a bad habit that I try to get my self out of but I sometimes catch myself doing it and I wanted to be honest about what was happening here.

 

Does the TSB cause the issue I was describing with the clutch not engaging into gear right away?

 

Thanks for the help Grabber.

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Honesty is good. We were just trying to tell you how importand it is to not keep your foot on the clutch. No harm meant.

 

Your syncros are warn from the clutch dragging. You have been shifting and the engine has kept the syncros loaded with engine torque because of the problems with the clutch. The clutch test is even heard better if the engine is cold. If you can show it to your dealer in a cold state, you are better off if your problem is in the minor stage and hard to detect.

 

This means leaving your car set there for 4-6 hours or over night.

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What was wrong with your Tranny if you don't mind me asking?

 

It did the things noted in my original test thread:

 

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php...ic=11629&hl=

 

Then I got a tranny:

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php...ic=14874&hl=

 

Then the new flywheel and another clutch:

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php...ic=32271&hl=

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I just hope the dealer does not say the clutch is a wear and tear item since my car has 14,000 miles on it.

 

Its a big dealership Frontierford in Santa Clara I just hope they have serviced a car with a similar issue so I dont need to jump through hoops to prove to them its a manufacturing defect.

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Small Update:

 

I spoke with the resident SVT tech over the phone at Fronteir Ford and he was not familiar with the TSB at all. He told me to come in tommorow morning and bring the TSB.

 

He said the clutch is not covered by Ford but I explained to him that it was a manufacturing defect and I should be entitled to a new one. He did not argue he just said to come in with the TSB printed out to make sure we are on the same page.

 

Does anyone have a dealership or tech that I can use as a refrence. I am very worried about getting billed for a new clutch.

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Small Update:

 

I spoke with the resident SVT tech over the phone at Fronteir Ford and he was not familiar with the TSB at all. He told me to come in tommorow morning and bring the TSB.

 

He said the clutch is not covered by Ford but I explained to him that it was a manufacturing defect and I should be entitled to a new one. He did not argue he just said to come in with the TSB printed out to make sure we are on the same page.

 

Does anyone have a dealership or tech that I can use as a refrence. I am very worried about getting billed for a new clutch.

 

Your dealer's tech should go right over to a computer and print out the TSB from FoMoCo's dealer's technicial support website; I'm a bit surprised that he would put the job on you to bring the TSB to him. But here is a dealer and contact that is quite well versed on the TSB and the repairs needed to get it completed.

 

Galpin Ford, North Hills (San Fernando valley) CA. Service Writer Nelson Buss. (818) 756-3496.

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....the reason I want you to keep the door open, is because you can hear it better that way. Lean your ear down torward the rocker panel and listen.

 

Just did this test last night after pulling the car into the garage. Definetely hear the hiss with the door open and pedal fully depressed but it's much lower than the hiss when in the middle of pushing depressing the clutch pedal. Also noticed a slight ticking sound when car is in neutral and the clutch pedal is released. Only hear it when the pedal is released. Is that the beginnings of clutch chatter? Guess it's time to make an appointment. 1600 miles on the car BTW.

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Just did this test last night after pulling the car into the garage. Definetely hear the hiss with the door open and pedal fully depressed but it's much lower than the hiss when in the middle of pushing depressing the clutch pedal. Also noticed a slight ticking sound when car is in neutral and the clutch pedal is released. Only hear it when the pedal is released. Is that the beginnings of clutch chatter? Guess it's time to make an appointment. 1600 miles on the car BTW.

 

Bingo - You need the TSB work.

 

The light hissing noise that you hear in nuetral with the pedal pushed in, is the clutch dragging.

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