PhD Gofast Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 So some months ago, a certain member of this forum droped a teaser (apparently at the request of his boss) that there is an 11" version of the SS Alcoa in the works with better offsets. So what happened to this "early morning news"? Is "Tonto" blowing smoke? When will we see the 11"s? I'm still waiting........as are many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RogerS Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 So some months ago, a certain member of this forum droped a teaser (apparently at the request of his boss) that there is an 11" version of the SS Alcoa in the works with better offsets. So what happened to this "early morning news"? Is "Tonto" blowing smoke? When will we see the 11"s? I'm still waiting........as are many others. Why don't you just e-mail Bud at budm@shelbyautos.com and get your answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhD Gofast Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Why don't you just e-mail Bud at budm@shelbyautos.com and get your answer? errr - because we get non-answers like this buried in other posts about SS upgrades: "3. Still in the testing phase. If it does not perform to OUR standards, no sense in trying to promtote them." Guess I’m the only one disappointed that a much desired addition to the Shelby Alcoa lineup most likely is not going to become reality with vague answers like that. And I'll place money, no 11" wheel on display at SEMA. :cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker45 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 errr - because we get non-answers like this buried in other posts about SS upgrades: "3. Still in the testing phase. If it does not perform to OUR standards, no sense in trying to promtote them." Guess I’m the only one disappointed that a much desired addition to the Shelby Alcoa lineup most likely is not going to become reality with vague answers like that. And I'll place money, no 11" wheel on display at SEMA. :cry Your not even close to the only person wondering. I'm just waiting like everyone else for news..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerGmc Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 errr - because we get non-answers like this buried in other posts about SS upgrades: "3. Still in the testing phase. If it does not perform to OUR standards, no sense in trying to promtote them." Guess I’m the only one disappointed that a much desired addition to the Shelby Alcoa lineup most likely is not going to become reality with vague answers like that. And I'll place money, no 11" wheel on display at SEMA. :cry I guess statring a thread with a condesending post is one way to get an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSnake08 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Last time Bud Posted on this I believe he said they were being tested. The car certainly needs them. I want to bring my SS home with 11's too. Hopefully the testing is going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICK82 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Last time Bud Posted on this I believe he said they were being tested. The car certainly needs them. I want to bring my SS home with 11's too. Hopefully the testing is going well. Any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor08GT500 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Any updates? Yeah...if they won't do it, I'm going to have mine widend or change wheels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08 ORANGE SS-725HP Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Hey guys, let's all be realistic!! 11"wheels with bigger tires still WILL NOT provide adequate straight line traction for these cars! No if's, and or buts. First off, they have to clear the rear brake cooling ducts which by their design inhibits the tire from being tucked inside the wheel well to it's max. Then you have the taller/wider tire not interfering with any suspension components and/or fender when loading the suspension around curves etc. during road racing/spirited street driving. This is what SAI has to contend with to release a wheel/tire combo that will be truly safe and functional and liability free; so LAY OFF with all the sarcastic posts on why these are not available yet! The tires/wheel/suspension combo that comes with the car are remarkable right from the get go for road racing. I can attest to that having my car @ Pocono Raceway for a HPDE day. True slicks are the only tires to provide max. STRAIT LINE performance. JMOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICK82 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Hey guys, let's all be realistic!! 11"wheels with bigger tires still WILL NOT provide adequate straight line traction for these cars! No if's, and or buts. First off, they have to clear the rear brake cooling ducts which by their design inhibits the tire from being tucked inside the wheel well to it's max. Then you have the taller/wider tire not interfering with any suspension components and/or fender when loading the suspension around curves etc. during road racing/spirited street driving. This is what SAI has to contend with to release a wheel/tire combo that will be truly safe and functional and liability free; so LAY OFF with all the sarcastic posts on why these are not available yet! The tires/wheel/suspension combo that comes with the car are remarkable right from the get go for road racing. I can attest to that having my car @ Pocono Raceway for a HPDE day. True slicks are the only tires to provide max. STRAIT LINE performance. JMOP I still want an 11 inch Alcoa though as I have the Griggs full suspension which allows for an 11 inch wheel and 315 tire. I wouldn't mess with a Super Snake personally. Mine is a GT500 with personal mods and I really think this much power needs more rubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksnake Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Hey guys, let's all be realistic!! 11"wheels with bigger tires still WILL NOT provide adequate straight line traction for these cars! No if's, and or buts. First off, they have to clear the rear brake cooling ducts which by their design inhibits the tire from being tucked inside the wheel well to it's max. Then you have the taller/wider tire not interfering with any suspension components and/or fender when loading the suspension around curves etc. during road racing/spirited street driving. This is what SAI has to contend with to release a wheel/tire combo that will be truly safe and functional and liability free; so LAY OFF with all the sarcastic posts on why these are not available yet! The tires/wheel/suspension combo that comes with the car are remarkable right from the get go for road racing. I can attest to that having my car @ Pocono Raceway for a HPDE day. True slicks are the only tires to provide max. STRAIT LINE performance. JMOP Several of us that have Super Snakes tried to get Shelby Autos to go wider before the first car was even built. Wider tires and a better rubber compound will help. Look at the Viper, Vette, and the Saleen 302 Mustang. All have wider wheels, more tire, and softer rubber. The Saleen 302 has 11 inch 20s and they perform and look great. The brake duct mod to accept these is a piece of cake. It all goes back to making a mistake and not wanting to admit it. They do not want to change anything even if it is to better the car. They are just hoping we all will give up and go away. If they wanted to get the wheels out there they could. I know people way up in Alcoa and they have not been given permission to do it yet. That is where the real problem lies. Bruised egos are slow to heal. I just wish they would let us buy them and stop the stalling. Most of us want them enough to pay the extra money to get them. I will buy better tires also. The P Zeros are not that good. I will store them with the 10 inch wheels in case I sell the car someday. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APPLESREDGT500 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500-07 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I still want an 11 inch Alcoa though as I have the Griggs full suspension which allows for an 11 inch wheel and 315 tire. I wouldn't mess with a Super Snake personally. Mine is a GT500 with personal mods and I really think this much power needs more rubber. the Griggs set up works with 18" wheels not 20" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 hey phd, I work for Alcoa & have the answer to your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500-07 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 hey phd, I work for Alcoa & have the answer to your question nice to know CWHR, what about the 18" Alcoa's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICK82 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 the Griggs set up works with 18" wheels not 20" No I have 20's on my Griggs. They recommend 18's for less weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 nice to know CWHR, what about the 18" Alcoa's Sorry, now that I work for Alcoa I'm under a gag order from both SAI & Alcoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500-07 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Sorry, now that I work for Alcoa I'm under a gag order from both SAI & Alcoa :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksnake Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 :ph34r: Building what your customers really want in a timely manner. What a concept. This is why most American companies are in trouble. They want you to take what they want to make and be happy. The companies that know what customer service really is actually listen to their customers and make more money along the way. They make their customers happy and keep them coming back. Open and honest companies do better than their counterparts in the long run. It would be great to see thaat happen hear. We have been put on the back burner for months now with no updates. Widing a wheel one inch in the manufacturing process is not a big deal. They will fit and work fine. Saleen already has the 302 with 20 inch tires and eleven inch wide wheels. They look and work great. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhD Gofast Posted October 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Sorry, now that I work for Alcoa I'm under a gag order from both SAI & Alcoa Hey Coldy, Funny, I don't see you in Outlook. Could it be that you are blowing smoke too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedRacer Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Sorry, now that I work for Alcoa I'm under a gag order from both SAI & Alcoa The Alcoas are made in Cleveland and you live in Detroit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500-07 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 The Alcoas are made in Cleveland and you live in Detroit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I work for their EES-Engineered Plastics Componets division & on my 2nd day here I emailed the person in Cleveland that handles orders for employees who want to purchase Alcoa rims at a discount, sorry to burst your smoke bubble again Dr Not-so-fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhD Gofast Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I work for their EES-Engineered Plastics Componets division & on my 2nd day here I emailed the person in Cleveland that handles orders for employees who want to purchase Alcoa rims at a discount, sorry to burst your smoke bubble again Dr Not-so-fast ....and that's why you are not in Outlook for Cleveland.... Apparently the only bubble being burst here is that of all the SS and GT500 owner's who were expecting to see an 11" wheel that will support a tire at least as wide as stock. I do find it funny how an entire golf cart that has nothing to do with the company's primary product line can be conceptualized, designed, developed and even agreed to be produced in less time than one wheel which is desparately needed. I know I'm not the only one here who is extremely disappointed with the prioritization of projects. But I'll bet that I'm only one of a few in here who are not afraid to express our extreme dissapointment in the decisions being made by those in charge. This is getting to be like cell phones - remember the original purpose of a cell phone? It's to make a mobile phone call. But since the cellular networks in this country are so substandard, all the cell companies add extra features like music, games, etc, to distract you from the original reason you wanted to buy a cell phone. Someone should refocus their priorities and remember what business they are in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker45 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Apparently the only bubble being burst here is that of all the SS and GT500 owner's who were expecting to see an 11" wheel that will support a tire at least as wide as stock. I do find it funny how an entire golf cart that has nothing to do with the company's primary product line can be conceptualized, designed, developed and even agreed to be produced in less time than one wheel which is desparately needed. I know I'm not the only one here who is extremely disappointed with the prioritization of projects. But I'll bet that I'm only one of a few in here who are not afraid to express our extreme dissapointment in the decisions being made by those in charge. Someone should refocus their priorities and remember what business they are in.... Well I'm one of the few then. I have voiced my displeasure with the choice of rear tires since the first day it was announced that 275's would be used on the rear of the SS. Made no sense to me then and makes no sense to me now. Now I know more about the facts behind the situation and the wrong offset being ordered it doesn't change the facts of the matter. It has been well over a year since the rear tire size was brought up and many people were told that it would be looked at. 5 months ago (now almost 6 months) http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28038 we were told an 11" rear was being worked on. Now I understand that stuff takes time. I know I want some more meat on the back of my SS. I want it done right and I would like it done in a reasonable amount of time as it should have been done originally imho. At least there is hope that it will happen in the near future. I know they were still working on it when I dropped my GT500 off 3 weeks ago to get the SS package done because I spoke to them face to face about it. Maybe in the next week or so we will know more. Now this isn't a slam or butt kissing post. It's a customer of a $30,000 upgrade package speaking his mind and stating known facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500-07 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Bud, how is the testing going? Any news you can share with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksnake Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 They are too busy making Corvette 427 Badges right now. Maybe by the time they run out of worthless sales gimics they will build what their customers keep asking for. Wait, that would be custome service. Cannot have that. Not enough quick money in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSNAKE Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 They are too busy making Corvette 427 Badges right now. Maybe by the time they run out of worthless sales gimics they will build what their customers keep asking for. Wait, that would be custome service. Cannot have that. Not enough quick money in it. That comment was a little over the top don't ya think? SAI has bent over backwards to provide service to their customers the SS 427 may or may not be evidence of that but it has been my personal experience that they have always come thru for their customers one way or another and they have made PLENTY of concessions on this project (SS), dealing with them has been a joy (JMO). Sure they take their time developing/testing products and sure they want to get paid for it if they didn't there wouldn't be a SAI to buy anything from and if they rushed ill-tested products out the door, then you WOULD have something to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500Bookends'68'07 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 That comment was a little over the top don't ya think? SAI has bent over backwards to provide service to their customers the SS 427 may or may not be evidence of that but it has been my personal experience that they have always come thru for their customers one way or another and they have made PLENTY of concessions on this project (SS), dealing with them has been a joy (JMO). Sure they take their time developing/testing products and sure they want to get paid for it if they didn't there wouldn't be a SAI to buy anything from and if they rushed ill-tested products out the door, then you WOULD have something to complain about. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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