AFBLUE Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Although I've had this car since December, I really haven't got a feel for how fast it is compared to other cars. Well tonight while heading home from a date with the Mrs, a 1997-2004 style C5 Corvette convertible pulls up next to me at a stop light. He has the top down and a female in the passenger seat. The light turns green, and he guns it. I leave the light at a leasurely pace as I'm not planning to "street race". I'm too old for that. Wife says "what's with it with you guys? You just have to race don't you?" I say "What? I'm not racing, he will kick my butt..what's the point?" We then come to another stop light. This time I turn the radio to CD mode and select track 2 of the Bullitt soundtrack...the song that plays before the chase scene and tell the wife "I need some appropriate music for this situation". I'm screwed...there is no way I can resist this music while sitting in a stang at a stop light. Now the C5 has the LS1 5.7L with 345-350hp and weighs 3214-3248lbs. So he's got me by 25-30hp and 250lbs. When the light turns green I get the jump on him but as we go through 1st gear he slighty pulls ahead, but when I shift to 2nd he stops pulling ahead. I was surprised. I just hung with him until I hit the brakes at around 55-60mph (Can't afford any tickets and didn't want to endanger anyone else) Did some googling on this model Vette, and found that a 1998 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible did 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and quarter mile 13.5 http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/art..._0-60times.html That's about the same 0-60 as the SGT and slightly faster to the quarter mile. Well anyway, I was glad to see my non supercharged SGT was able to hang with the previous generation LS1 Vette. The SGT would fair well against the heavier 2004 LS1 GTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Wooohhhh! Woooohhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milstang Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Although I've had this car since December, I really haven't got a feel for how fast it is compared to other cars. Well tonight while heading home from a date with the Mrs, a 1997-2004 style C5 Corvette convertible pulls up next to me at a stop light. He has the top down and a female in the passenger seat. The light turns green, and he guns it. I leave the light at a leasurely pace as I'm not planning to "street race". I'm too old for that. Wife says "what's with it with you guys? You just have to race don't you?" I say "What? I'm not racing, he will kick my butt..what's the point?" We then come to another stop light. This time I turn the radio to CD mode and select track 2 of the Bullitt soundtrack...the song that plays before the chase scene and tell the wife "I need some appropriate music for this situation". I'm screwed...there is no way I can resist this music while sitting in a stang at a stop light. Now the C5 has the LS1 5.7L with 345-350hp and weighs 3214-3248lbs. So he's got me by 25-30hp and 250lbs. When the light turns green I get the jump on him but as we go through 1st gear he slighty pulls ahead, but when I shift to 2nd he stops pulling ahead. I was surprised. I just hung with him until I hit the brakes at around 55-60mph (Can't afford any tickets and didn't want to endanger anyone else) Did some googling on this model Vette, and found that a 1998 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible did 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and quarter mile 13.5 http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/art..._0-60times.html That's about the same 0-60 as the SGT and slightly faster to the quarter mile. Well anyway, I was glad to see my non supercharged SGT was able to hang with the previous generation LS1 Vette. The SGT would fair well against the heavier 2004 LS1 GTO. LOL, loved that part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SGT1977 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 That's respectable. The SGT hold's her own. I feel the same way about street racing. I could care less who beats me. I just love the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I bet he was more surprised that you! That's a great story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowCar Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Good story. We are quits capable of hanging with them vettes. I now run 13.3 at 106.5mph and did that against a C5 just recently. He had a 6 speed and some mods. He ran 13.60 at 104. The advantage goes to Chevy at higher speeds due to drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Good story. We are quits capable of hanging with them vettes. I now run 13.3 at 106.5mph and did that against a C5 just recently. He had a 6 speed and some mods. He ran 13.60 at 104. The advantage goes to Chevy at higher speeds due to drag. Have you posted your timeslips in the timeslips section? If not, please do...we need some SGT's in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 In case you don't remember the song "Shifting Gears" from Bullitt http://www.last.fm/music/Lalo+Schifrin/_/Shifting+Gears Just hit the play button on the upper right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mciarochi Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Very cool! Gotta love Lalo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEDEMAN Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Blue I didn't think you had it in you! What an excellent story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt N. Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Nice story... The Shelby just plain sounds cooler too. "Black Sunshine" by White Zombie is another good one for such an event. Especially if you're sitting in a black SGT/SC. You know there's one of you out there who's named his car after this song. Listen to a sample... Same instrunctions as AFBLUE's sample (hit the Play button in the upper right corner) The song begins the words in (parenthesis) are spoke, the rest sung... (Gripping the wheel, his knuckles went white with desire! The wheels of his Mustang exploding on the highway like a slug from a .45. True death: 400 horsepower of maximum performance piercing the night... This is black sunshine.) Yeah! Move me in the silence baltic motorway hang me on the edge before I fall away - Apocalypse is dawnin' action on the mile. A "can-do" revolution - Earth to the river (nile) Sweet'n the ride - Black Sunshine - Sweet'n the ride - Yeah - Sweet'n the ride - Black Sunshine - Sweet'n the ride - Yeah!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn&Steph Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 In case you don't remember the song "Shifting Gears" from Bullitt http://www.last.fm/music/Lalo+Schifrin/_/Shifting+GearsJust hit the play button on the upper right. This should of been in your CD player! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn&Steph Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Hi this is Steph; I think you should have had this in the dash!!! I am a lil Partial to this artist (cuz I got to meet him) This is his new stuff! I love it!!!! Steph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorjock205 Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 This should of been in your CD player! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o Awwwwww...when I hear Danger Zone and I'm driving on the highway, I'll have the speedo pegged before I know it....that song is just made to drive fast to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEDEMAN Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Nice story... The Shelby just plain sounds cooler too. "Black Sunshine" by White Zombie is another good one for such an event. Especially if you're sitting in a black SGT/SC. You know there's one of you out there who's named his car after this song. Listen to a sample... Same instrunctions as AFBLUE's sample (hit the Play button in the upper right corner) The song begins the words in (parenthesis) are spoke, the rest sung... (Gripping the wheel, his knuckles went white with desire! The wheels of his Mustang exploding on the highway like a slug from a .45. True death: 400 horsepower of maximum performance piercing the night... This is black sunshine.) Yeah! Move me in the silence baltic motorway hang me on the edge before I fall away - Apocalypse is dawnin' action on the mile. A "can-do" revolution - Earth to the river (nile) Sweet'n the ride - Black Sunshine - Sweet'n the ride - Yeah - Sweet'n the ride - Black Sunshine - Sweet'n the ride - Yeah!... Even @ 50 years old I love the bass. LOL yes it is a hot piece of music- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORSBYT Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I've spent some time running up against vette's in my 5oh. And seeing the vette's at the track it doesn't take long for one to realize they are dogs. They're not "quick", but in the long haul they've got legs. I KNOW none of us like to street race, but if you have a quick light-to-light run with one you're likely to get him or at least make him scratch his head a little and wonder why you we're able to keep up so easily. I'm betting some of the guys with 4:10's will catch them by suprise. We'll leave the full and legite @$$ kicking to our Supercharged teammates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobr13 Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Corvette's really aren't "dogs", they are just designed with different performance goals. In shorter, say 1/8 mile tracks, the vettes are limited by much taller stock gearing in lower gears ( for example, the Z06 doesn't hit the rev limiter until 61 mph) and later model vettes come with stiff walled runflat tires, so tend to have real traction issues at launch. Better aerodynamics helps vettes considerably in the second 1/8 of a quarter mile. So stoplight to stoplight, SGTs can hang with the C5s and supercharged SGT's can more than hold their own with some C6s. On a road course, driven equally, a Vette is much faster. Very different cars, very different design priorities. Because I know there will be the inevitable "oh yeah ... " comments, I'll give you the rest of the story. Both these cars live in my basement. The Z06 is bone stock, down to the crappy runflat tires. The SGT has a Whipple HO, detuned to 445 RWHP (more than the Z06) to keep the rods in the block, Ram clutch, and aftermarket wheels with wider sticky tires. I love both cars, and plan to keep both til my kids fight over who gets what after I'm gone, so I have no axe to grind. I have actually spent more time driving, working on and just generally "loving on" the SGT. Truthfully, except maybe an occasional 1/8 mi., there is no race the SGT wins, in the same driver's hands. And, considering the cost of the mods I've done on the SGT, and the fact that you can get a vette for employee prices now, the price delta is pretty small. Truthfully, both are great, but VERY different cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACERX009 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Although I've had this car since December, I really haven't got a feel for how fast it is compared to other cars. Well tonight while heading home from a date with the Mrs, a 1997-2004 style C5 Corvette convertible pulls up next to me at a stop light. He has the top down and a female in the passenger seat. The light turns green, and he guns it. I leave the light at a leasurely pace as I'm not planning to "street race". I'm too old for that. Wife says "what's with it with you guys? You just have to race don't you?" I say "What? I'm not racing, he will kick my butt..what's the point?" We then come to another stop light. This time I turn the radio to CD mode and select track 2 of the Bullitt soundtrack...the song that plays before the chase scene and tell the wife "I need some appropriate music for this situation". I'm screwed...there is no way I can resist this music while sitting in a stang at a stop light. Now the C5 has the LS1 5.7L with 345-350hp and weighs 3214-3248lbs. So he's got me by 25-30hp and 250lbs. When the light turns green I get the jump on him but as we go through 1st gear he slighty pulls ahead, but when I shift to 2nd he stops pulling ahead. I was surprised. I just hung with him until I hit the brakes at around 55-60mph (Can't afford any tickets and didn't want to endanger anyone else) Did some googling on this model Vette, and found that a 1998 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible did 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and quarter mile 13.5 http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/art..._0-60times.html That's about the same 0-60 as the SGT and slightly faster to the quarter mile. Well anyway, I was glad to see my non supercharged SGT was able to hang with the previous generation LS1 Vette. The SGT would fair well against the heavier 2004 LS1 GTO. Hey great story it's in are blood !!! But don't let certain other members hear you street raced they will get really mad at you cause they never did it themselves cause its illegal and could kill people. Don't worry I got your back. Now, I'm on hunt for a vette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORSBYT Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I kinda thought my comment about them not being quick implied that the "doggyness" was due to the fact that they were not quick off the line and I think we agreed, given some space there's no dealing with them. However, i'm dismayed at the comment that the SGT doesn't win anything but an occassional 1/8 run. Especially, with an SC. Since it was "detuned" as you put it and fear that rods are coming out maybe you're a little hesistant in opening her up more and let her breathe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbytexan Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 That's not street racing if the speed limit was 55 or 60.I got stopped when i was young driving my dad's 64 olds dynamic 88 with a 425 ci v8. The trooper gave me a ticket for improper takeoff.I wasn't driving fast,i just liked to get to my cruising speed faster than most people.That's why they do 0-60 test.If you want to take off slow then drive a corvair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I was hesitant to post this story because I don't condone street racing and obviously don't want to encourage anyone to do anything that gets someone injured or killed. Plus, if a cop had been sitting in the right spot, my insurance would probably be more expensive right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH53Driver Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hey Mark, Good story! I got one very similar to it just from yesterday. I was coming from the VA Beach area and was coming on to one of the on-ramps for 264 (westbound). As I turn on to the on-ramp I noticed a C5 'Vette in front of me going up the ramp with the plate "ZUM BY U". Haha...I think he was a little surprised when we got onto the freeway that not only did I hang with him up the on-ramp but the fact that once on the freeway he was the one who got "zoomed by". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobr13 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 . Especially, with an SC. Since it was "detuned" as you put it and fear that rods are coming out maybe you're a little hesistant in opening her up more and let her breathe? Actually I detuned it so I COULD get on it with less chance of ventilating the block. The new Gen II HO Whipples are turning out 13 lbs of boost, if you don't at least pull some timing the stock rods are very close to the edge. We backed the timing out until we got under 450 rwhp, which is what most guys consider a safe limit. I let her rip now, if a rod goes, that is a good excuse to build the engine and get back some timing. Also, in fairness, most of the discussion in this thread is about C5 vettes with about 345 shaft HP. My C6 Z06 has 505 shaft hp, and is a very different car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORSBYT Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 No, I hear ya. Each car has distinct features and are setup for completely different uses. That's alot of HP! Hope you enjoy them both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH53Driver Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Also, in fairness, most of the discussion in this thread is about C5 vettes with about 345 shaft HP. My C6 Z06 has 505 shaft hp, and is a very different car. True. Those C6 Z06's are very impressive machines in their own right. However, I think you are pretty limited to what you can do to that 7.0 motor they come with. I think it is very telling when GM announced the the ZR-1 was going to have a 6.2 S/C engine vice a 7.0 S/C engine because they felt that the cylinder walls were just too "thin" on the current Z06 and wouldn't hold up to F/I. Either way, that Z06 would make a great track machine and are still plenty fast in a straight line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACERX009 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 That's not street racing if the speed limit was 55 or 60.I got stopped when i was young driving my dad's 64 olds dynamic 88 with a 425 ci v8. The trooper gave me a ticket for improper takeoff.I wasn't driving fast,i just liked to get to my cruising speed faster than most people.That's why they do 0-60 test.If you want to take off slow then drive a corvair. Hey up here it's unsafe start which is about 3 pts on your license or contest of speed off the light with another car it's street racing. But up here you can pretty much plea bargin your way out. In the NYC or suburbs it's a joke everything gets throw out even murders. One place I don't speed thru is VA they don't care who you are. This a true story believe me if you want NYC sent a bunch of Cops and ESU and EMTs to New orleans to help out. Since they did the same for us no lie they got pulled over in marked cars and trucks at first my guys thought they were getting an escort. The VA troopers started to hassle them for speeding through, They wanted to see drivers license from them sorry on duty we don't carry one. It was a spitting match till a capt from us called headquarters then they called the troopers headquarters and explained under national disaster law enforcement dispatched to assist has no boundry's. I think NYPD lost 2hrs travel time and on the way back 2 troopers were observing there speeds. I wasn't not allowed to be trusted to far from city lines but my 4 co- workers tolds the details but they were more upset on how they fine citzens of new orleans acted. People were shooting at them the rapes and stealing. SAD / NYPD has always extend extreme courtesy to outside agency. Even had VA town cops drive into manhattan in a marked car plain clothes no vest asked me where a good hotel was to stay at. They had to pick up a perp and wanted to park their car on the street with the shot gun there. Amazing, I said you be lucking if your tires are there in the morning took them to nearest PCT they got a room no charge of course PBA paid and 2 vest and taken to dinner. Everyone works together better things turn out and fair warning NYPD goals are these days write anyone right or wrong it's about the #'s. Believe that's what made me an enemy of the state I refused to write like a robot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 This past weekend I rented a ZHZ Corvette in Charlotte (and promptly got a speeding ticket 10 minutes into the rental) and I must say, there's no comparison in speed between these two, the vette is much quicker than my stock SGT. But hopefully my new friend Kenne will be able to fix that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 A base Corvette MSRP is roughly the same as the GT500 MSRP, so to me these are the two that should be compared. Some other info I obtained out of curiousity and google searches; Corvette 0-60 in 4.5 secs., 1/4 mile in 12.8 secs (Edmunds). GT500 0-60 in 4.5 secs., 1/4 mile in 12.9 secs (car & driver). Challenger SRT8 0-60 in 4.8 secs., 1/4 mile in 13.3 secs (car & driver). Shelby GT/SC 0-60 in 4.6 secs., 1/4 mile in 13.0 secs at 110.2 mph (motor trend). Shelby GT 0-60 in 5.1 secs., 1/4 mile in 13.7 secs at 104.0 mph (car & driver). Mustang GT 0-60 in 5.3 sec., 1/4 mile in 13.4 secs at 100 mph (motor trend). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORSBYT Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 hmmmm no serious kickin's from any one of those really... Ok, i'm gonna be on the look out for some Challengers! Just kidding, just kidding! Thanks for the googling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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