S SNAKE 07 0081 Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 I Would like some opinion’s should SAI sell SUPER SNAKE HOODS TO ANYONE so they can add it to there GT500 have FB stripes painted on add the vents and windows block outs some hood pins someone’s 20" rims and have a $ 30,000.00 + SS LOOK for a few thousand dollars, I DON’T THINK SO. SUPER SNAKE PARTS SHOULD BE FOR REGISTERED SUPER SNAKE OWNERS ONLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO-GT500 Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 ..I guess I am surprised that it bothers you so much......is it a philosophical thing or are you concerned about collectible value?? either way, the barn door has been opened, with or without the cooperation of SAI, so it really doesn't matter what any of us think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUSMCBOB Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 I Would like some opinion’s should SAI sell SUPER SNAKE HOODS TO ANYONE so they can add it to there GT500 have FB stripes painted on add the vents and windows block outs some hood pins someone’s 20" rims and have a $ 30,000.00 + SS LOOK for a few thousand dollars, I DON’T THINK SO. SUPER SNAKE PARTS SHOULD BE FOR REGISTERED SUPER SNAKE OWNERS ONLY. ABSOLUTELY NOT. S.A.I. SHOULD SUPPORT THE EXCLUSIVITY OF THERE CUSTOMERS WHO PAID $35,000 ISH FOR A GENUINE SUPER SNAKE PACKAGE. I WOULDN'T THINK THEY WOULD SELL KR PARTS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR EXCLUSIVITY PROTECTED. BOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ati Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 ..I guess I am surprised that it bothers you so much......is it a philosophical thing or are you concerned about collectible value?? either way, the barn door has been opened, with or without the cooperation of SAI, so it really doesn't matter what any of us think. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambbo Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 I Would like some opinion’s should SAI sell SUPER SNAKE HOODS TO ANYONE so they can add it to there GT500 have FB stripes painted on add the vents and windows block outs some hood pins someone’s 20" rims and have a $ 30,000.00 + SS LOOK for a few thousand dollars, I DON’T THINK SO. SUPER SNAKE PARTS SHOULD BE FOR REGISTERED SUPER SNAKE OWNERS ONLY. Welcome to the site... Some of us who bought the KB SC over a year ago could say the same thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960apache Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 ????? Are you seriously asking that question?? I know this is a car forum, but isn't that the same type of thinking a man, many years ago had? I think his name was Hitler??? You want to "Buy" your way into an exclusive club???? Anyway, if you can figure out a way for people to stop making "Knock offs" of any product, you would have enough money to buy a Super Snake for anyone that would want to make a copy of one!! There are already quite a few Mustang GT's converted to look like an SS! There are already manufacturers out there who have made hoods that they are selling and labeling as the "KR/SS" hood! If you are expecting to pay $80k for an exclusive car, you went to the wrong dealership, you need to look into a Bugatti Veyron 16.4, and not a mass produced Mustang!! You should be happy you have an SS and just enjoy it for what it is!!!! Sorry I am not good at "Sugar Coating" things. Personally, I think JAS427 has the right idea! Buy a 725hp and enjoy every horse of it as much as possible!! Life is just too short to lose sleep over such trivial things as the future value of a vehicle that consumes and depends on an ever deminishing energy source such as a Fossil based fuel!!!!!!!!! That will be $200 please for the counseling session thank you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GioF40 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 There really is no excluscity. We were told the same thing when we bought our 500's in 07. That production would only be for one year. The individuals that bought the 07 500 with a dealer markup should be just a upset as 500 now are going for MSRP. That is the capitalist system, better get use to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangegt500 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I think it is really sad that because you own a car that no one else should have any of the parts either. If you want exclusivity, buy a KR, but a Ferrari or anything else. These companies are in the business of making money. They cannot survive on vehicle sales alone. How do you think Sallen got so big? They sold parts to everyone, that is how their name got our there, their business grew, and now they have a long term company with a good sales base. SAI DOES NOT SELL the special emblems and badges to the public. That is how you know it is fake or not. Just like any clone Saleen may look the same until you see the absence of ID plaques. It may suck to watch people clone vehicles and claim they are real to uneducated enthusiasts. That is where part of the fun is to rolling up in a real one and laughing at the fake one. Ford sells all the conversion pieces to any v6 or GT owner wanting to make their mustang a Shelby clone. When they pop the hood though, no 5.4, no Romeo/Niche line stamped valve covers, just a clone. Try telling SAI, Saleen, Ford, Roush, etc, that they should not sell any parts of their vehicles to the public as aftermarket parts. They would not only laugh at you, but they would also risk going out of business by losing a massive percentage of their revenue due to aftermarket sales. If they stopped selling parts every time someone cried about exlusivity, they would be out of business long ago and not producing great cars like the GT500, KR, SS and mustangs in the first place! If you own an SS, you are enjoying part of that culture of modding cars. There is no exlusivity when it comes to modding cars. To be honest, the fact that this topic is even on here shows that money can buy people nice cars, but it can't buy them common sense and manners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Morris Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 What makes my car an REAL SS is the CSM number and the SS badges. If SAI didnt sell the SS hood someone else would. I have no problem with them selling the HOOD. You could buy the SS stripe on ebay before SAI was evening building the SS. I was at a car show this weekend and one of the guys has a black vert with the SS hood. Its an AWESOME looking car. It never crossed my mind that he shouldnt have MY hood. Everyone can have thier opinion on this, but mine is that SAI can sell the hood to anyone they want. michael morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 What makes my car an REAL SS is the CSM number and the SS badges. If SAI didnt sell the SS hood someone else would. I have no problem with them selling the HOOD. You could buy the SS stripe on ebay before SAI was evening building the SS. I was at a car show this weekend and one of the guys has a black vert with the SS hood. Its an AWESOME looking car. It never crossed my mind that he shouldnt have MY hood. Everyone can have thier opinion on this, but mine is that SAI can sell the hood to anyone they want. michael morris I would guess that if someone wants the SS look, and is not buying an SS they may not be at a point in their life (or career) to buy into such a car. As long as there is a demand for the "SS look", there will be a demand for the real thing. Many of those same guys who want the SS look now, but can't quite pull the trigger on a SS purchase will "possibly" (actually most likely) be a future buyer of the real thing when the time and $$$ are right for them. They will be the future buyers of their "dream car(s)", the Shelby Super Snake in this case. I say whatever it takes to keep the SS look (and dream) alive out there in public, keep it alive for years to come!! R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerS Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I would guess that if someone wants the SS look, and is not buying an SS they may not be at a point in their life (or career) to buy into such a car. As long as there is a demand for the "SS look", there will be a demand for the real thing. Many of those same guys who want the SS look now, but can't quite pull the trigger on a SS purchase will "possibly" (actually most likely) be a future buyer of the real thing when the time and $$$ are right for them. They will be the buyers of their "dream car(s)", the Shelby Super Snake in this case. I say whatever it takes to keep the SS look (and dream) alive out there in public, keep it alive for years to come!! R I agree Robert. Take a look at the SVT R's. The 95 hood is probably the most popular aftermarket hood ever. They only made 250 cars. The 2000 R hood for the SN195 has the same situation. People notice the hood and immeidately refer to the "R" designation. I can only assume the same will hold true for the SS hoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstrong Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I just read the write up from Shelby Automobiles. It says for the Super Snake; "Though the complete Super Snake package will be available exclusively through Shelby Automobiles, many of the products comprising the package will also be available from Shelby Automobiles and Ford Racing beginning in late June 2007. Anyone interested in transforming their Shelby GT500 into one of these rare supercars should contact the Las Vegas factory at (702) 942-7325." Sounds like they say anyone with a GT500 can make a SS. :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCrowe Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I just read the write up from Shelby Automobiles. It says for the Super Snake;"Though the complete Super Snake package will be available exclusively through Shelby Automobiles, many of the products comprising the package will also be available from Shelby Automobiles and Ford Racing beginning in late June 2007. Anyone interested in transforming their Shelby GT500 into one of these rare supercars should contact the Las Vegas factory at (702) 942-7325." Sounds like they say anyone with a GT500 can make a SS. :happy feet: I think that it is outstanding that people want to spend their money and their time to try to copy what I have of the real thing. That's is as big a compliment that you can get. This is actually what will help support the value of the real thing. Again this is just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions. Steve Crowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Morris Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I went to my first show with the SS this weekend. Im so proud of this car. It got ALOT of attention and folks took TONS of pictures. Im very blessed that I can afford this car. Im excited that for the folks waiting on thier cars. Yall are going to LOVE THEM. This is not a car that you are going to run into yourself at car shows! I know that we are going to see the hood and wheels on NON SS cars, but thats fine. It just shows how good looking the hood and wheels are. michael morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960apache Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 This thread is cracking me up big time!!! ATI, that is classic! Thanks for posting your sig pic of a GT500 with a KR or SS hood in this thread. Actually, where did you get that hood, it looks great!! As for the person who originally started this thread, you may want to visit some other car enthusuast forum's to see what people think of your car, to put things into perspective!!! 99.9% of the public most likely wont be able to tell the difference between a $13k used, 2005 V6 Mustang with 40,000 miles and some aftermarket wheels, and an $80k+ new Super Snake!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Morris Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 This thread is cracking me up big time!!!ATI, that is classic! Thanks for posting your sig pic of a GT500 with a KR or SS hood in this thread. Actually, where did you get that hood, it looks great!! As for the person who originally started this thread, you may want to visit some other car enthusuast forum's to see what people think of your car, to put things into perspective!!! 99.9% of the public most likely wont be able to tell the difference between a $13k used, 2005 V6 Mustang with 40,000 miles and some aftermarket wheels, and an $80k+ new Super Snake!!! 99% of the public doesnt know what a SS is! So I agree with you. Most folks wouldnt be able to tell the difference if the cars are sitting side by side which one is the SS and which one is the V6 Just drive it like you stole it and let your kids or grankids worry about what it will be worth. I plan on giving my SS to my unborn son. I just hope theres some car left to give him, if not I will tell the stories about how much fun I had driving the car I was SUPPOSED to give him michael morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 99.9% of the public most likely wont be able to tell the difference between a $13k used, 2005 V6 Mustang with 40,000 miles and some aftermarket wheels, and an $80k+ new Super Snake!!! I would also guess that 99.9% of the public won't be shelling out the big bucks when the time is right to sell these cars either. But, as with any specialty car, the person "in the know" who has researched their dream car knows the real thing and can spot it somewhat easily after seeing so many clones/fakes and "close but no cigar" variations. Yes, there will be very good copies, very good, especially since parts can be purchased readily. That is when the correct documentation is your best friend. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomis Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 This is hardly the first time someone has bolted Shelby style parts onto a Mustang that wasn't what it professed to be at first glance: do 1960s GT350s and GT500s ring any bells? All car companies do it - BMW sell M-Sport parts to make their 5-Series look like an M5, Porsche the kit to make a 911 look like a GT3, Mercedes sell every part to make any of their cars look like the AMG version - it is often referred to as the 'halo effect'. Does it bother me? No! For two simple reasons - imitation is a form of flattery (be proud you own a car people want to copy) and two, I don't worry about what others have because each time I put my foot down I'll know I have the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I agree Robert. Take a look at the SVT R's. The 95 hood is probably the most popular aftermarket hood ever. They only made 250 cars. The 2000 R hood for the SN195 has the same situation. People notice the hood and immeidately refer to the "R" designation. I can only assume the same will hold true for the SS hoods. Being a current owner of both of the cars mentioned above, I know what you are saying!! The 95 and 00 Cobra R fiberglass hoods, R specific wheels and 00R splitter and rear wing are "hot items" even now. When I see a car on the road "appearing" to be a 95 or 00R, I look for the Fuel Safe fuel cell, no cell, no R.<<Most clone guys don't go through the extra expense of installing a 20gal./21gal. fuel cell in their clone R.<<This will change when these cars become more valuable, but then date correct parts and proper documentation will quickly weed out the fakes. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Does it bother me? No! For two simple reasons - imitation is a form of flattery (be proud you own a car people want to copy) and two, I don't worry about what others have because each time I put my foot down I'll know I have the real deal. That is a true statement^^^^^^^^^. I see it all the time, the clone guys and their friends flock around the real thing. Even the clone guys say "I want one of these some day". They will be the future big $$$ buyers when the time is right to own their dream. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbylvr Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 99% of the public doesnt know what a SS is! So I agree with you. Most folks wouldnt be able to tell the difference if the cars are sitting side by side which one is the SS and which one is the V6 Just drive it like you stole it and let your kids or grankids worry about what it will be worth. I plan on giving my SS to my unborn son. I just hope theres some car left to give him, if not I will tell the stories about how much fun I had driving the car I was SUPPOSED to give him michael morris HAHAHAHAHAHA! Maybe "driving it like you stole it" isn't such a great idea!! LOL On a serious note.. I would drive the heck out of it if I had one.. so drive yours for me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Saleen215 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 My 89 is a clone...after much consideration I knew there wasn't going to be much "stock" Mustang left let alone Saleen. So I decided to "have it my way" and built it from scratch AND 99.9% of the people that look at it can't tell it from the real thing nor notice all the "one-offs" that I have. I took the same approach with the Shelby...should I just buy a base car and drop in the engine, etc and run away cheaper even though it's not the real thing? Well...I bought one so I guess that tells you how that went. I like the Alcoa's and the SS hood, but I really don't care for most of the other parts of the SS package. That's what's great about it though, we all can personalize our cars to be what WE want. I would side with allowing the KR pieces to be up for grabs too...I'm still unclear how the KR is so different that it warrants SAI not to sell any of it's parts. It would seem that the SS would fall into that category too...if for no other reason than consistency. Just my .02... Saleen 89-215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesamiGT500 Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I have an 08 vapor and I've already ordered the hood and wheels. I'm really sorry if it offends any of the actual super snake owners but i will not change the badges. I cannot afford the actual package but i can afford most of the essential performance accessories along with the stage 1 charger. My baby just wanted a few upgrades and I wouldn't add a thing that isn't shelby authentic. I live in texas where its flat and i would never endanger other drivers but i have not made one trip where i didn't drive her like i stole her. If you don't like that she looks like an SS then don't let me know cus i take it a bit personally when you talk bad about my baby. As for the real SS drivers, if your concerned about your money then you'll get every scent back some day. -josh 08 vapor 500 "Breanne" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Morris Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I have an 08 vapor and I've already ordered the hood and wheels. I'm really sorry if it offends any of the actual super snake owners but i will not change the badges. I cannot afford the actual package but i can afford most of the essential performance accessories along with the stage 1 charger. My baby just wanted a few upgrades and I wouldn't add a thing that isn't shelby authentic. I live in texas where its flat and i would never endanger other drivers but i have not made one trip where i didn't drive her like i stole her. If you don't like that she looks like an SS then don't let me know cus i take it a bit personally when you talk bad about my baby. As for the real SS drivers, if your concerned about your money then you'll get every scent back some day. -josh 08 vapor 500 "Breanne" Cant wait to see pictures when your thru! Welcome to the board and look forward to seeing the finished product. michael morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA CRUIZER Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 I love the SS hood! But not the decal stripes. :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA CRUIZER Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 I also like the splitter, from SAI . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 I love the SS hood! But not the decal stripes. :happy feet: Nice!!!^^^^^^^^^^ I have compared some of the items that come on the SS from SAI, and the items sold through the Shelby parts catalog as SS parts. Yes the KB blower in function and look is the same, except I noticed that the end of the parts catalog KB blower pulley does not say "Super Snake". I have also heard that the 20" Alcoas that are part of the conversion say "Super Snake" on them in addition to the "Shelby" and "GT500" around the edge/bead, the parts catalog 20's only say "Shelby" and "GT500" and not Super Snake. I believe that most of the parts catalog SS items are produced as "close, but no cigar" to keep them seperate from the real/original SS items. I would like to hear from an SS owner about the 20" Alcoas. Do they say "Super Snake" around the edge? I have seen the replacements, they do not. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbylvr Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Nice!!!^^^^^^^^^^ I have compared some of the items that come on the SS from SAI, and the items sold through the Shelby parts catalog as SS parts. Yes the KB blower in function and look is the same, except I noticed that the end of the parts catalog KB blower pulley does not say "Super Snake". I have also heard that the 20" Alcoas that are part of the conversion say "Super Snake" on them in addition to the "Shelby" and "GT500" around the edge/bead, the parts catalog 20's only say "Shelby" and "GT500" and not Super Snake. I believe that most of the parts catalog SS items are produced as "close, but no cigar" to keep them seperate from the real/original SS items. I would like to hear from an SS owner about the 20" Alcoas. Do they say "Super Snake" around the edge? I have seen the replacements, they do not. R The Super Snake Alcoa's do say SUPER SNAKE on them :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Morris Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Heres the only picture I have of the wheel on my car. If you look close on the top and right side you can see Super Snake michael morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SGT1977 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Super Snake your Stang! http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=468494 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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