ProCharger installed..Pix

[naniki]

Here it is...for now. At 9psi, this made 485rwhp. A little timing dropped it to 472 but with a choppy dyno curve. We ordered a larger pulley to put it at 7psi and tuned for 450rwhp. That will be the solution for this summer and then this fall we will build a separate short block, save the original, and have the heads ported. We'll most likely refit the tranny this winter too and save the original. Goal for spring of 09 is 650 rwhp with all the upgrades.

[07SHELBY GT]

I just posted a thread in the mods section asking about superchargers,WHy the Procharger,Ease of install?What did it run ya?Looking to put down at least 450 RWHP on my 08 Bullitt,Like to leave the exhaust alone.

[moabman]

Here it is...for now. At 9psi, this made 485rwhp. A little timing dropped it to 472 but with a choppy dyno curve. We ordered a larger pulley to put it at 7psi and tuned for 450rwhp. That will be the solution for this summer and then this fall we will build a separate short block, save the original, and have the heads ported. We'll most likely refit the tranny this winter too and save the original. Goal for spring of 09 is 650 rwhp with all the upgrades.

 

Great! Enjoy :happy feet:

[shel-b001]

Wow very nice

[naniki]

I just posted a thread in the mods section asking about superchargers,WHy the Procharger,Ease of install?What did it run ya?Looking to put down at least 450 RWHP on my 08 Bullitt,Like to leave the exhaust alone.

 

I looked into the whipple and paxton applications and going to a SAI dealer...Tasca was closest to me in since I am in Ohio. They were way too expensive and I wanted a custom dyno tune at a shop closer to home. I asked a lot of questions on this site and on some local mustang sites. It really boils down to whether or not you are concerned with warranty issues. I'm not and I really believe the procharger is a higher quality product. It is also self lubricated and has a quick drain below that will be very convenient. So, pricing was $4612 for the Procharger psc-1 High Output. This has a 3 core intercooler and produced more than enough rwhp. In fact, I need a bigger pulley to drop down to 7psi in order to stay in the 450 rwhp saf...er zone. I spent about $1000.00 on labor, and another $750.00 for the custom dyno tune. The shop has a fantastick reputation and is only 25 minutes from my house. I had to give up getting the S/C badging that comes with the SAI install, but let's face it, everything I do to this car is reversible to original condition and in the end, after I build the separate short block with forged internals and replace the original tranny... The car will be more valuable in the long run for having the original stuff practically brand new and stored. Best of all, I will have spent less than $20,000 in upgrades and custom tuning and I will be outperforming gt 500's and even the KR's that come out this year. I guess the only thing left to do is learn how to drive the damned thing! Last thing, I replaced the factory mufflers with flowmasters, looking for a deeper sound. My shop tells me the originals have better flow and I am putting them back on when the new pulley comes in and we retune it.

[07SHELBY GT]

Thanks!Heck I already put the Flowmaster axleback on mine,Hope the flow isn't much different because I don't want to lose that nice sound!Very nice by the way!

[SGT/SC#0471]

SWEET!!!

[ShowCar]

Very nice. Gotta love more POWER!!!

[stormeaston]

Having somebody close to do it is a big thing for me too. I don't want to spend 7k and then have the car slower than it was before.

[CudaFly]

Here it is...for now. At 9psi, this made 485rwhp. A little timing dropped it to 472 but with a choppy dyno curve. We ordered a larger pulley to put it at 7psi and tuned for 450rwhp. That will be the solution for this summer and then this fall we will build a separate short block, save the original, and have the heads ported. We'll most likely refit the tranny this winter too and save the original. Goal for spring of 09 is 650 rwhp with all the upgrades.

 

VERY NICE... I'm probably headed towards the modified block/heads route around the same timeframe. Have not made any final design decisions yet but there are a lot of great options. With the technology available today a reliable 10 second pump gas daily driver street car is entirely possible. Of course there is not a big market for these so I am doing this just for fun and not as an investment. It's an expensive hobby but you can't take it with you so might as well enjoy it.

[mywickedshelby]

Excellant naniki, keep us posted.

[torquewrench1807]

Congrats on the purchase and install. At a recent dyno day, I saw a ProCharged Mustang rev on a city block. It was loud, scary, and got the attention of the police.

[Hot Pony]

VERY NICE... I'm probably headed towards the modified block/heads route around the same timeframe. Have not made any final design decisions yet but there are a lot of great options. With the technology available today a reliable 10 second pump gas daily driver street car is entirely possible. Of course there is not a big market for these so I am doing this just for fun and not as an investment. It's an expensive hobby but you can't take it with you so might as well enjoy it.

She is looking good Bryan! You need to bring that beast by to the 2nd Saturday event in the Casselberry Commons shopping plaza. It usually gets going around 7pm.

Hope to see you around...Joe

[Dunedindon#5481]

I looked into the whipple and paxton applications and going to a SAI dealer...Tasca was closest to me in since I am in Ohio. They were way too expensive and I wanted a custom dyno tune at a shop closer to home. I asked a lot of questions on this site and on some local mustang sites. It really boils down to whether or not you are concerned with warranty issues. I'm not and I really believe the procharger is a higher quality product. It is also self lubricated and has a quick drain below that will be very convenient. So, pricing was $4612 for the Procharger psc-1 High Output. This has a 3 core intercooler and produced more than enough rwhp. In fact, I need a bigger pulley to drop down to 7psi in order to stay in the 450 rwhp saf...er zone. I spent about $1000.00 on labor, and another $750.00 for the custom dyno tune. The shop has a fantastick reputation and is only 25 minutes from my house. I had to give up getting the S/C badging that comes with the SAI install, but let's face it, everything I do to this car is reversible to original condition and in the end, after I build the separate short block with forged internals and replace the original tranny... The car will be more valuable in the long run for having the original stuff practically brand new and stored. Best of all, I will have spent less than $20,000 in upgrades and custom tuning and I will be outperforming gt 500's and even the KR's that come out this year. I guess the only thing left to do is learn how to drive the damned thing! Last thing, I replaced the factory mufflers with flowmasters, looking for a deeper sound. My shop tells me the originals have better flow and I am putting them back on when the new pulley comes in and we retune it.

That's fantastic information and congratulations on the new Procharger. I've been looking at the twin screw solutions but they are more expensive. This could be a new solution and since I am really just looking for around 450rwhp it sounds like the 7psi could be right there. I've been watching your posts during this whole process and been very impressed with all the help and feedback you have been getting. Tell me, how does it drive now with the 450 rwhp?

 

One thing that concerns me about the Procharger is where they breath the air from in the engine compartment. They put the air filter right in the back where, to me, it looks like it gets the hottest air. Do you know if it's ok that they do that because their intercooler handles the air temp better than other applications? I know it's a strange question but some of the other blowers, Kenne Bell, make a big point out of where they breath their air and that it make more HPs if the air charge is that much cooler before it gets to the intercooler.

 

Really a great installation and I can't wait to continue to follow your progress.

[ilmor]

Thanks!Heck I already put the Flowmaster axleback on mine,Hope the flow isn't much different because I don't want to lose that nice sound!Very nice by the way!

 

Don't tell Ford - they spent a bundle on that system to imitate the original Bullit sound!!

[naniki]

That's fantastic information and congratulations on the new Procharger. I've been looking at the twin screw solutions but they are more expensive. This could be a new solution and since I am really just looking for around 450rwhp it sounds like the 7psi could be right there. I've been watching your posts during this whole process and been very impressed with all the help and feedback you have been getting. Tell me, how does it drive now with the 450 rwhp?

 

One thing that concerns me about the Procharger is where they breath the air from in the engine compartment. They put the air filter right in the back where, to me, it looks like it gets the hottest air. Do you know if it's ok that they do that because their intercooler handles the air temp better than other applications? I know it's a strange question but some of the other blowers, Kenne Bell, make a big point out of where they breath their air and that it make more HPs if the air charge is that much cooler before it gets to the intercooler.

 

Really a great installation and I can't wait to continue to follow your progress.

 

Well, I just spent a lot of time writing up all the stats I had and then I lost power and had to restart. Anyway, In response to the 450 rwhp and how it drives right now, I don't know. I am still sitting at 472rwhp and 422 ft.lbs. of torque at 6200rpm and 5800 rpm respectively. The dyno runs were done cold and hot and the losses in hp were small on the hot run. (dropped by less than one hp.) The torque dropped by 19ft. lbs though. This Friday we will put the larger pulley on, the original exhaust, and re-tune for 450rwhp. The shop owner has agreed to run it in the 1/4 for me, as he has extensive race experience. That will happen this weekend also and I will post numbers as soon as I have them. I wasn't kidding when I said I need to learn how to drive it! I did beat a Cobra last weekend that the owner claims runs 11:7's, but I don't know if that is true or if beating him is impressive. I guess I should rephrase... I know how to drive as much as anyone on the road, I simply lack experience against a clock or other experienced drivers to whom I may compare. Make sense? About the heat issue and location of the intake... I can't even make an intelligent guess as to the effects this will have on performance. I did add royal purple's purple ice to the coolant and switched to their oil at 2500 miles. I can scan and post dyno sheet if anyone is interested. In a nutshell, this is the greatest fun driving I have ever had in any car, any time, anywhere.

[Dunedindon#5481]

Well, I just spent a lot of time writing up all the stats I had and then I lost power and had to restart. Anyway, In response to the 450 rwhp and how it drives right now, I don't know. I am still sitting at 472rwhp and 422 ft.lbs. of torque at 6200rpm and 5800 rpm respectively. The dyno runs were done cold and hot and the losses in hp were small on the hot run. (dropped by less than one hp.) The torque dropped by 19ft. lbs though. This Friday we will put the larger pulley on, the original exhaust, and re-tune for 450rwhp. The shop owner has agreed to run it in the 1/4 for me, as he has extensive race experience. That will happen this weekend also and I will post numbers as soon as I have them. I wasn't kidding when I said I need to learn how to drive it! I did beat a Cobra last weekend that the owner claims runs 11:7's, but I don't know if that is true or if beating him is impressive. I guess I should rephrase... I know how to drive as much as anyone on the road, I simply lack experience against a clock or other experienced drivers to whom I may compare. Make sense? About the heat issue and location of the intake... I can't even make an intelligent guess as to the effects this will have on performance. I did add royal purple's purple ice to the coolant and switched to their oil at 2500 miles. I can scan and post dyno sheet if anyone is interested. In a nutshell, this is the greatest fun driving I have ever had in any car, any time, anywhere.

That's great info. I'm just wondering out loud why you want to crank it up to 650 RWHP when you don't feel like you have the experience to handle 450 RWHP. I mean aren't you getting into the "you can get into bad trouble real fast" territory with that kinda power. That's getting up around what 725 crank hp. Wow, that's alot of go. Trust me I would really like to have that kinda get up and go at my disposal but I'm afraid I would be either dead or in jail. I really like that you are honest about your driving. I'm sure a lot of us aren't that proficient at real racing and I'm also sure that there are a lot of folks on this site that are.

 

I was on the ProCharger web site earlier today, now that you have me really thinking about this application, and they sound like their intercooler is a very efficient unit. That's most likely why they can get the air from that part of the engine compartment. I plan on calling them tomorrow and discussing that among other questions. This looks like a really good system and I like that it is unique on the SGTs.

[naniki]

That's great info. I'm just wondering out loud why you want to crank it up to 650 RWHP when you don't feel like you have the experience to handle 450 RWHP. I mean aren't you getting into the "you can get into bad trouble real fast" territory with that kinda power. That's getting up around what 725 crank hp. Wow, that's alot of go. Trust me I would really like to have that kinda get up and go at my disposal but I'm afraid I would be either dead or in jail. I really like that you are honest about your driving. I'm sure a lot of us aren't that proficient at real racing and I'm also sure that there are a lot of folks on this site that are.

 

I was on the ProCharger web site earlier today, now that you have me really thinking about this application, and they sound like their intercooler is a very efficient unit. That's most likely why they can get the air from that part of the engine compartment. I plan on calling them tomorrow and discussing that among other questions. This looks like a really good system and I like that it is unique on the SGTs.

 

You are absolutely right about the power versus inexperience issue. This is a relatively new hobby for me but I don't intend to always have someone else do my driving. I have already made some local friends that race and have invited me to join them at the track. I will spend alot of this summer getting familiar with this car and the new power. As to why go to 650 rwhp? Hmmmm... Why not, I guess. I just rebuilt my first motor two years ago and it was a little Honda 11 horse piece of junk I found abandoned. Thing is, I really enjoyed learning it and the guys at the shop I am using are kind of helping me along, but also making sure I participate in the build selection process. I talked to them a lot and basically wanted them to understand that while they will actually build this motor, I will learn what's in it and why, and how it all works. I started out with this outrageously wicked car and the idea that I could just bolt on a ton of Horsepower by throwing money into it. Now I am seeing that there is almost an art to how you go about it all. For example, I could continue to drive around with the 472 rwhp, or even more and eventually blow it up or baby it forever...never happen! Or I can back it off and learn with the reduced and safer power level while I build a motor that has forged internals, ported heads, cams, valves, springs and headers and then tune it for (realistically) the lower end of its capabilities. It keeps the motor damned near bullet proof and teaches me a thing or two about efficiency versus raw power. As someone else mentioned on here, it is an expensive hobby, so I want to not only get bang for my bucks on the street, but in the knowledge that comes with the whole process too. For me, that part is almost as enjoyable as the driving.

[Flyingbadgers2001]

That's great info. I'm just wondering out loud why you want to crank it up to 650 RWHP when you don't feel like you have the experience to handle 450 RWHP. I mean aren't you getting into the "you can get into bad trouble real fast" territory with that kinda power. That's getting up around what 725 crank hp. Wow, that's alot of go. Trust me I would really like to have that kinda get up and go at my disposal but I'm afraid I would be either dead or in jail. I really like that you are honest about your driving. I'm sure a lot of us aren't that proficient at real racing and I'm also sure that there are a lot of folks on this site that are.

 

I was on the ProCharger web site earlier today, now that you have me really thinking about this application, and they sound like their intercooler is a very efficient unit. That's most likely why they can get the air from that part of the engine compartment. I plan on calling them tomorrow and discussing that among other questions. This looks like a really good system and I like that it is unique on the SGTs.

 

Dunedindon, I like the GT500 spoiler you installed on your SGT. Do you have other pics of a side shot and a rear shot?

You got me thinking.......... I've been throwing the idea around about getting a rear spoiler. -FB

[Dunedindon#5481]

Dunedindon, I like the GT500 spoiler you installed on your SGT. Do you have other pics of a side shot and a rear shot?

You got me thinking.......... I've been throwing the idea around about getting a rear spoiler. -FB

 

 

Here is a link to my post when I put on my new CS69 wheels. I took some worthy shots of my SGT and they show the side and rear view with the spoiler. http://forum.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26644

 

I know that I certaily like it with the spoiler. Just adds some extra dimension to the rear end that makes it look beefier. I bought it painted from Atlanta Auto Accesories. Perfect paint match and it was easy to install, except you have to drill holes in the trunk lid. Here is the link.

http://www.atlantaauto.com/ford/mustang/re...d691038p05.html

 

I bought the stripe kit from Shelby and installed them myself. It took 2 tries because I've never installed stripes before but now that it's done I'm very satisfied with the look.

[Dunedindon#5481]

You are absolutely right about the power versus inexperience issue. This is a relatively new hobby for me but I don't intend to always have someone else do my driving. I have already made some local friends that race and have invited me to join them at the track. I will spend alot of this summer getting familiar with this car and the new power. As to why go to 650 rwhp? Hmmmm... Why not, I guess. I just rebuilt my first motor two years ago and it was a little Honda 11 horse piece of junk I found abandoned. Thing is, I really enjoyed learning it and the guys at the shop I am using are kind of helping me along, but also making sure I participate in the build selection process. I talked to them a lot and basically wanted them to understand that while they will actually build this motor, I will learn what's in it and why, and how it all works. I started out with this outrageously wicked car and the idea that I could just bolt on a ton of Horsepower by throwing money into it. Now I am seeing that there is almost an art to how you go about it all. For example, I could continue to drive around with the 472 rwhp, or even more and eventually blow it up or baby it forever...never happen! Or I can back it off and learn with the reduced and safer power level while I build a motor that has forged internals, ported heads, cams, valves, springs and headers and then tune it for (realistically) the lower end of its capabilities. It keeps the motor damned near bullet proof and teaches me a thing or two about efficiency versus raw power. As someone else mentioned on here, it is an expensive hobby, so I want to not only get bang for my bucks on the street, but in the knowledge that comes with the whole process too. For me, that part is almost as enjoyable as the driving.

 

Wow, that's just one hell of a great reply. You have it really dial in with your way of thinking and if you can afford to go that way then more power to you, literally. I totally agree that it would be great to be part of the build effort if you aren't the one doing the install and your 100% right about the way to go about it. Build it for 1000hp and it will handle anything you throw at it with 650. I'm not sure that I'm in the same financial situation as you so I plan on not taxing the upper limits of the stock motor when I do decide on a supercharger. I'll be looking forward to your updates on the build process and enjoy the new found, or is that purchased, power. Thanks again.

[07SHELBY GT]

Don't tell Ford - they spent a bundle on that system to imitate the original Bullit sound!!

Yeah,That"original sound"didn't quite cut it for me!The muffflers are being sold someplace already for somewhere around $600 for the set.OUCH!If someone offers even close to that for mine they can have them.I guess I'll throw the millions spent in sound testing pitch at em'! Wish they had spent millions on putting a stroker mod motor in there instead!

[LuLu]

Mufflers?

 

What mufflers?

 

Nevermind...

 

 

Bravo, my friend. I like your plan. Box up the original engine and tranny for restoration, and start again with fresh components. Believe it or not, you will save thousands of dollars in the long run. A blown engine/tranny repair is expensive, and it's never right again anyway. Ask me how I know?

 

As long as you are working towards the back of the car, how about some consideration for the third member of the powertrain. Increased RWHP will take it's toll there too.

 

My suggestions are few. Ford Racing gears (M-4209-in your choice of ratio), because other mfgs tend to whine at cruising speeds. Upgraded traction-lok differential, I prefer the Auburn Pro (M-4202-P31), but other choices (Torsen, Eaton, ect.) are good too. Dana 60 bearing stud cap kiit (M-4034-A) and a Ford Racing (or again, your choice) axle girdle (M-4033-G2 for the SGT). Also, talk with your race shop experts about welding up the housing at the axle tubes and spring/control arm perches.

 

Having the power at the wheels means you have to get it to the ground, and more power will test the durability of the stock components. You have planned/done everything else right, don't forget the third member of the team?

 

Congrats again, and happy motoring!

[naniki]

Thank you for the input. This is an area I had not even considered yet, so I am glad you pointed it out. Also for the suggested parts. Another reason I keep coming back here... Much to learn from many great sources.