EbonyGT500 Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Some have asked for a pdf file on the 2007 Shelby GT500 PDI where it shows the PCM must be reset prior to delivery. The PDI is almost 50 pages long. A lot of ShelbyGT 500 specific info One of the things I have mentioned in past is the TPMS. Part of the PDI is to check out the TPMS. more info soon when I can get them in pdf format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EbonyGT500 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 what kind of info would all like to have on the GT500? how about something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Cobras Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Ebony - Thanks for printing the page on the clutch in the GT500. Good gouge. Tracks with what I hear on my car, and the 'gear rollover' noise has been apparent in all three T-56s I have / had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Some have asked for a pdf file on the 2007 Shelby GT500 PDI where it shows the PCM must be reset prior to delivery. The PDI is almost 50 pages long. A lot of ShelbyGT 500 specific info One of the things I have mentioned in past is the TPMS. Part of the PDI is to check out the TPMS. more info soon when I can get them in pdf format. Great Info ---THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Thanks for the info. Chatter, hiss & rattle...Oh my! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EbonyGT500 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Thanks for the info. Chatter, hiss & rattle...Oh my! ya woulda thunk they would have just called this thing a COBRA? here is a SPECIFICATIONS PAGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 ya woulda thunk they would have just called this thing a COBRA? here is a SPECIFICATIONS PAGE A little off topic here, but if anyone wants to see the actual specifications (e.g. WSS-M2C931-A), my company sells them. Buy WSS-M2C931-A I know...shameless advertising. I'll try not to let it happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Thanks for the info. Chatter, hiss & rattle...Oh my! That's the noise a Snake makes before it strikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EbonyGT500 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 A little off topic here, but if anyone wants to see the actual specifications (e.g. WSS-M2C931-A), my company sells them. Buy WSS-M2C931-A I know...shameless advertising. I'll try not to let it happen again. FORD WSS-M2C931-A - Complete Document Revision: 04 Chg: Date: 06/21/04 OIL, ENGINE, API SL, SAE 5W-50 INITIAL FILL AND SERVICE FILL, FULLSYNTHETIC ***TO BE USED WITH FORD WSS-M99P1111-A*** Comments: Superseding Document: Page Count: 8 In Stock: Yes Hardcopy Price: $ 30.00 Download Price: $ 30.00 What exactly are you selling? 30.00 for 8 pages? It has nothing Shelby GT500 in it. That price can be beat by 30.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 FORD WSS-M2C931-A - Complete Document Revision: 04 Chg: Date: 06/21/04 OIL, ENGINE, API SL, SAE 5W-50 INITIAL FILL AND SERVICE FILL, FULLSYNTHETIC ***TO BE USED WITH FORD WSS-M99P1111-A*** Comments: Superseding Document: Page Count: 8 In Stock: Yes Hardcopy Price: $ 30.00 Download Price: $ 30.00 What exactly are you selling? 30.00 for 8 pages? It has nothing Shelby GT500 in it. That price can be beat by 30.00 FORD WSS-M2C931-A is the specification Ford wrote that outlines the requirements for the 5W-50 oil to be used in the Shelby. Basically, every part on every Ford car has a Ford specification that outlines the requirments for manufacture of that part. All Ford suppliers have to buy all the specifications for any part they build for Ford to make sure they fit the correct requirements. Let me tell you, in the standards and specifications business, $30 is CHEAP. We have some standards that are only a few pages long that go for $600 or $700. It's nutty. We never hear the end of it from customers. I should know...I run the pricing department. Check out this one. Only 100 pages and it goes for $875.00...and it is about aquarium equipment. :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloy Dave Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Only 100 pages and it goes for $875.00...and it is about aquarium equipment. :wacko: Geesh....I think I'd rather spend that $875 on a cat-back exhaust and a pulley swap. what kind of info would all like to have on the GT500? It's hard to say without knowing what's available, but is there any info on the PCM (I get Spanish Oak and Silver Oak mixed up...so whichever one the GT500 has)? How about anything that describes specs on the engine internals...pistons, rods, crank, etc.? Any repair/rebuild info? Instructions on the features on the radio? Thanks, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EbonyGT500 Posted August 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 FORD WSS-M2C931-A is the specification Ford wrote that outlines the requirements for the 5W-50 oil to be used in the Shelby. Basically, every part on every Ford car has a Ford specification that outlines the requirments for manufacture of that part. All Ford suppliers have to buy all the specifications for any part they build for Ford to make sure they fit the correct requirements. Let me tell you, in the standards and specifications business, $30 is CHEAP. We have some standards that are only a few pages long that go for $600 or $700. It's nutty. We never hear the end of it from customers. I should know...I run the pricing department. Check out this one. Only 100 pages and it goes for $875.00...and it is about aquarium equipment. :wacko: rpretzel, Just messin' with ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EbonyGT500 Posted August 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Geesh....I think I'd rather spend that $875 on a cat-back exhaust and a pulley swap. It's hard to say without knowing what's available, but is there any info on the PCM (I get Spanish Oak and Silver Oak mixed up...so whichever one the GT500 has)? How about anything that describes specs on the engine internals...pistons, rods, crank, etc.? Any repair/rebuild info? Instructions on the features on the radio? Thanks, Dave Dave, Yes, The shop manual to public for Shelby will be through HELM 800-782-4356. I have an order in for a full set which will not be avail until approx October or November. Think it was around 140.00 Yes I do have specs for the internals and radio info you asked about. Will see what I can do. Anything else? How about this? Geesh....I think I'd rather spend that $875 on a cat-back exhaust and a pulley swap. It's hard to say without knowing what's available, but is there any info on the PCM (I get Spanish Oak and Silver Oak mixed up...so whichever one the GT500 has)? How about anything that describes specs on the engine internals...pistons, rods, crank, etc.? Any repair/rebuild info? Instructions on the features on the radio? Thanks, Dave Dave, Yes, The shop manual to public for Shelby will be through HELM 800-782-4356. I have an order in for a full set which will not be avail until approx October or November. Think it was around 140.00 Yes I do have specs for the internals and radio info you asked about. Will see what I can do. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloy Dave Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 How about this? Nice pics of a cutaway...thanks. The company I work for does something similar via a "model shop". Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2008 Shelby Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 FORD WSS-M2C931-A is the specification Ford wrote that outlines the requirements for the 5W-50 oil to be used in the Shelby. Basically, every part on every Ford car has a Ford specification that outlines the requirments for manufacture of that part. All Ford suppliers have to buy all the specifications for any part they build for Ford to make sure they fit the correct requirements. Let me tell you, in the standards and specifications business, $30 is CHEAP. We have some standards that are only a few pages long that go for $600 or $700. It's nutty. We never hear the end of it from customers. I should know...I run the pricing department. Check out this one. Only 100 pages and it goes for $875.00...and it is about aquarium equipment. :wacko: Actually, my owners supplement says the spec now is WSS-M2C931-B. What's different now with the "B" vs. the "A" designator? Could it be now to use an SM rated 5w-50 vs. an SL rated 5w-50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Actually, my owners supplement says the spec now is WSS-M2C931-B. What's different now with the "B" vs. the "A" designator? Could it be now to use an SM rated 5w-50 vs. an SL rated 5w-50? Yep. You are correct. "B" = SM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2008 Shelby Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Thanks! If I'm not mistaken, Castrol Syntec is an SM rated 5w-50 full synthetic. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Thanks! If I'm not mistaken, Castrol Syntec is an SM rated 5w-50 full synthetic. Scott I just pulled up the PDS on Castrol Syntec 5W-50, and it is not SM rated. It's certified to the WSS-M2C931-A specification, which is the SL rating. To avoid warranty issues, it looks like we are all going to have to take it up the poop-chute and pay for Mororcraft. Castrol Syntec PDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt500hp Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I just pulled up the PDS on Castrol Syntec 5W-50, and it is not SM rated. It's certified to the WSS-M2C931-A specification, which is the SL rating. To avoid warranty issues, it looks like we are all going to have to take it up the poop-chute and pay for Mororcraft. Castrol Syntec PDS If you read this paragraph again in castrol oil, it does say SM. SAE 5W-50: provides the widest range of protection available. SAE 5W-50 delivers exceptional cold temperature pumpability for rapid oil circulation at start-up and provides a thick oil film for ultimate wear protection. Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SM, SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 If you read this paragraph again in castrol oil, it does say SM. SAE 5W-50: provides the widest range of protection available. SAE 5W-50 delivers exceptional cold temperature pumpability for rapid oil circulation at start-up and provides a thick oil film for ultimate wear protection. Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SM, SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Am I missing something here? I stand corrected. I missed the "API SM" part. I wonder how they can claim that if the oil is certified to "SL" specification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnut Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I stand corrected. I missed the "API SM" part. I wonder how they can claim that if the oil is certified to "SL" specification. Since the 5-50 seems to be the issue, there should be nothing wrong going to a 10-50 or even 20-50 in warmer climates. As long as the rest of Ford Spec can be matched. Besides, I doubt that in the event of a failure they will send your oil to an laboratory, a good name brand synthetic really should be OK. I think we are getting a little to paranoid about warranty issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I think we are getting a little to paranoid about warranty issues. Good point. I just didn't feel like working very hard today, so I decided to read all the related specifications to see what the difference was. The only difference I could find was the maximum allowable percentage of Phosphorus (SL=.10%, SM=.08%) Anyway, I think I'm going to skip out of work early and go have a couple of brews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 "delivers exceptional cold temperature pumpability for rapid oil circulation at start-up and provides a thick oil film for ultimate wear protection." Sounds like me on a cold Minnesota morning in January! (edit) - oops, sorry that was kind of O.T. wasn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnut Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 What's the difference in 'SM' spec. and 'SL' spec. I believe its the percentage of sulfur, 2% difference. Remember to quote someone else on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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