clark17357 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I have noticed that most folks really, really, really like the shock tower to shock tower Ford Racing brace on the SGT (as do I). Those who bought or are considering putting the S/C on their car mention that brace a lot. Would Paxton people opt for the Whipple if there was a brace as cool as the Ford Racing brace that fit on the Whipple equipped cars? I am getting the Whipple when my turn comes up at the Mod Shop and I am considering having a custom brace fabricated. Has anyone seen a custom one out there? It would seem like the GT500 people would flock to that. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SHELBY GT Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 As Ghetto as this sounds,I've been told that a couple of washers under the brace will allow it to stay with the whipple style charger.Don't know for sure but it doesn't sound like a good idea.Check with Lethal performance thought I heard they had something like you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuLu Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I like my SGT strut tower brace, but if it had to go away for the sake of performance, it would be gone. Truth is, I like the Paxton/Novi centrifugal option over the Roots/twin screw style Whipple. I have explained my reasoning here in other threads, and there is a a lot more to consider than just the value of the strut tower brace. Pick the kit you want for the reasons you want, strut tower brace aside. Then do what you gotta do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerS Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Jim, I have researched this to death. There is currently NO brace that fits over the Whipple with the stock or CS hood option. There is a Roush brace that is used that Dave C. posted awhile a ago but the height of the Whipple vs. the Roush allows no room. The only option I have come up with is a 8 point tie in. 2 to the firewall then 2 to the strut towers. A monte carlo bar as in the 60's Shelbys to tie the 2 fenders together and then run from the strut towers to the monte carlo bar. Here is a photo but there is not current application for the SN197 platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyGT/SC Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 That's why we should have another hood option - such as the KR hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerS Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I realizie that Amy stated that the hood on the new Terlingua would not be sold seperately but it has a 3" higher draw and is functional. Icould very happy with that hood and then the strut tower brace options become many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyGT/SC Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I realizie that Amy stated that the hood on the new Terlingua would not be sold seperately but it has a 3" higher draw and is functional. Icould very happy with that hood and then the strut tower brace options become many. Can some Photoshop expert put the Terlingua hood with the yellow paint and rabbit on a black SGT with silver stripes? I want to see what that looks like before I order one. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobrawertz_merged Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Can some Photoshop expert put the Terlingua hood with the yellow paint and rabbit on a black SGT with silver stripes? I want to see what that looks like before I order one. LOL Adam, Does the KR hood give us more clearance ? I think I like the KR hood better than the Terlingua hood. Need to see better pictures though. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyGT/SC Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Adam, Does the KR hood give us more clearance ? I think I like the KR hood better than the Terlingua hood. Need to see better pictures though. Rick I love the KR hood but I don't think it would work on the SGT. Since the fascia is different on the GT500, I think it wouldn't line up. Either way, I don't think it's an option, I was just dreaming. Plus, I love what I already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Check out this strut tower brace. http://www.stangsunleashed.com/photos/p17_...17_imageid/1390 Look like a Whipple will fit under that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SHELBY GT Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Check out this strut tower brace. http://www.stangsunleashed.com/photos/p17_...17_imageid/1390 Look like a Whipple will fit under that. It sure does,Wonder if the Bullitt hood is a little different?If not you guys may have just found your answer,If it will be sold seperately.Looks like it's made out of aluminum,Surely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyGT#3658 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Oh crap :wacko: Another tough choice to make. I'm selling my 67 Mustang trying to raise money to ship my Shelby GT back for a Super Charger. I was all set on the Whipple, now I learn you can't have a strut tower brace with it. Does any one have real world performance data between the two? HP numbers don't all ways tell the real story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milstang Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I love teh KR hood but I don't think it would work on the SGT. Since teh fascia is different on the GT500, I think it wouldn't line up. Either way, I don't think it's an option, I was just dreaming. Plus, I live what I already have. Correct the KR and the SS hood will NOT fit on our cars. Of course I asked John and Bud this a few months ago. Also there is NO room for any kind of strut tower brace if it goes over the Whipple that you can use the CS6/CS8/GT-H hood with...again I asked about that as well. I am having something painted on the underside of my GT-H hood and there is just enough clearance for it not to get rubbed off. :blink: Sorry Jim. You are in the same boat I was/am in but I can tell you it is worth it. I drove my car for the first time today with the Whipple and it is AWESOME. The low end torque is exactly what I hoped for and was constantly pushing. I couldn't drive it too long before the pain started bothering me but it was worth it! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT2666 Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Correct the KR and the SS hood will NOT fit on our cars. Of course I asked John and Bud this a few months ago. Also there is NO room for any kind of strut tower brace if it goes over the Whipple that you can use the CS6/CS8/GT-H hood with...again I asked about that as well. I am having something painted on the underside of my GT-H hood and there is just enough clearance for it not to get rubbed off. :blink: Sorry Jim. You are in the same boat I was/am in but I can tell you it is worth it. I drove my car for the first time today with the Whipple and it is AWESOME. The low end torque is exactly what I hoped for and was constantly pushing. I couldn't drive it too long before the pain started bothering me but it was worth it! :D +1 I'm very happy with my Whipple the low end is very fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 I currently have a centrigal in my 96GT (Vortech). It's ok, but I definitely want to go with the Whipple twin screw route this time around. Heard nothing but praise for this S/C. I too don't like not having the strut tower. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SHELBY GT Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 I realizie that Amy stated that the hood on the new Terlingua would not be sold seperately but it has a 3" higher draw and is functional. Icould very happy with that hood and then the strut tower brace options become many. Think I saw it for sale somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyPilot Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Think I saw it for sale somewhere. On the bottom of page 22 in the winter catalog there is picture of the Terlingua car. Under it says look for parts from the Terlingua car begining in the Spring of 2008. Included in the descriptions is the deep draw hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyGT#3658 Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 I currently have a centrifugal in my 96GT (Vortech). It's ok, but I definitely want to go with the Whipple twin screw route this time around. Heard nothing but praise for this S/C. I too don't like not having the strut tower. Oh well. Are you running an intercooler with your Vortech? What did they estimate the HP at. I would really like to find some real world performance data between the two? HP numbers don't all ways tell the real story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Are you running an intercooler with your Vortech? What did they estimate the HP at. I would really like to find some real world performance data between the two? HP numbers don't all ways tell the real story. No intercooler. My Hp on a mustang dyno was like 235rwhp, which equates to about 267rwhp and 304rwtq on dynojet. I didn't do a stock pull but typical results for 96GT were in the 180rwhp range (so about 87rhwp gain over stock). I don't have any 1/4 mile results. They would be bad anyway as I have a very tough time hooking up and just end up smoking the tires (think it my lowered springs and koni shock setup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SHELBY GT Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 On the bottom of page 22 in the winter catalog there is picture of the Terlingua car. Under it says look for parts from the Terlingua car begining in the Spring of 2008. Included in the descriptions is the deep draw hood. Thanks!I thought I saw it in the catalog but couldn't again last night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyPilot Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Are you running an intercooler with your Vortech? What did they estimate the HP at. I would really like to find some real world performance data between the two? HP numbers don't all ways tell the real story. ....I have the Paxton (Vortech) Novi 1200 with an intercooler. On 91 Octane on a 90 degree day the car put down 441 RWHP and 399 RW Tq. Others are getting a bit more or less depending on tunes. I think the highest I have seen is 485 RWHp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbydream1 Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 If I were going the S/C route, I think I would wait until I could get a whipple with a strut tower brace/hood combo that worked. I think the strut brace's stiffening properties would be missed under load though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyGT#3658 Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Thanks socaljafo, That's what I'm talking about. Is yours a stock Shelby tune or did you have someone tweak it? How noisy is the blower. I drove a Harley Truck with the factory blower and it was louder than the exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Also could you add how noisy the Whipple is compared to the Paxton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT2666 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Also could you add how noisy the Whipple is compared to the Paxton. The Whipple is silent unless you're leaning on it and then its a pretty subdued whine. I see in my recent autoweek an 06 GT with the Whipple is for sale claiming it was the 07 Cannon ball run winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyPilot Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Thanks socaljafo, That's what I'm talking about. Is yours a stock Shelby tune or did you have someone tweak it? How noisy is the blower. I drove a Harley Truck with the factory blower and it was louder than the exhaust. ...sitting at an idle you can hear the gears turning. Under boost you can hear the rushing air. Rather cool but not obtrusive. Certainly not close to being as loud as the exhaust. I had mine retuned on a dyno by a local Mustang performance shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark17357 Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I had mine retuned on a dyno by a local Mustang performance shop. Hi Chris, Curious why you had it retuned. Did you drive it a while and feel something was lacking or did you just want to play with it a bit? Thanks. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clawsonbob Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Hi Chris, Curious why you had it retuned. Did you drive it a while and feel something was lacking or did you just want to play with it a bit? Thanks. Jim I can't speak for socaljafo, but in general , the out of the box tunes are pretty vanilla.....car will run fine, but not optimized for climate/alt/ other mods on vehicle/vehicle nuances. when I did my sai sc, ( added full length headers/hi flo cats) my custom tune picked up another 43 rwhp see before/after tune results below ( sai/paxton supercharger tune vs custom) http://forum.shelbyautos.com/index.php?showtopic=2518 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyGT#3658 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Thanks for the link and info everyone. This is what I've been looking for to help me decide what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbydream1 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Out of curiousity, would the Shelby Gt500 strut tower brace fit with the whipple or is the hood draw too different??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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