frankieboo69 Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I wrote Ford and get an email back from them regarding voiding waranty or not for upgrading tunes,ect. this is a copy of the corrispondance with Ford!!! B) Dear Frankie, Thank you for contacting the Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center regarding your interest in doing some upgrades to your 2007 Ford Mustang GT. All alterations or modifications to Ford Motor Company vehicles must be done in compliance with all applicable State and Federal statutes and regulations. The installation or use of any non-Ford product will not necessarily void the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. However, if the non-Ford product fails or causes a Ford part to fail, the cost of the repair and any related damage are not covered by warranty. The vehicle owner would need to look to the manufacturer or installer of the non-Ford product for repairs. Therefore, Ford Motor Company does not recommend modifications to your vehicle. If you have any other inquiries, please feel free to contact us and we will be happy to address them for you. Sincerely, John Customer Relationship Center Ford Motor Company For online support visit us at: www.customersaskford.com which contains answers to frequently asked questions and links to other key product and service information. [THREAD ID:1-3NUIPA] -----Original Message----- From: b@.net Sent: 9/3/2007 11:50:31 AM To: Subject: Warranty_ESP_questions Contact Us First Name: Frankie Last Name: B Email Address: b Zip/Postal Code: 95004 Daytime Phone: 408-690- x Home Phone: 831-726- x Inquiring About Own Vehicle: Yes VIN : 1zvht82h975304708 Mileage : 3215 Contacted Dealer: No Servicing Dealer: sunnyvale ford Vehicle location: My possession Home Address: 441 City: aromas State/Province:ca Country: U.S.A Questions: I was thinking of doing some upgrades to my new ShelbyGT and i heard from alot of people that if i do a tune upgrade it will void the warranty. according to Granatelli Motor Sports there tuner the feugo flash tuner will not void the warranties , then i was emailed a link to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act , saying that the warranties can not be voided unless it can be proven that the aftermarket item was the cause of the problem! My car is brand new 07 Shelby GT , I love it and want alittle more HP but dont want to do anything that will void my warranties especially sence i purchased all the upgraded warranty packs including the maintance ! Please write me back with any info that will help me , Thanx for your time and help, Frankie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattInDetroit Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 About what I would have expected. They can't say no but they can say your modification caused the problem then its your expert against their expert and lots of $$$$$$$ in court. Again, do what you want, but be aware it's at your own risk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 :rolleyes: Typical legal response...ho-hum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshawk Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 About what I would have expected. They can't say no but they can say your modification caused the problem then its your expert against their expert and lots of $$$$$$$ in court. Again, do what you want, but be aware it's at your own risk! I agree that fighting a warranty claim like this is a lost cause. All their experts have to say is that the mod was possilby 1% contributatory to the failure and you are screwed. However, I've fussed over this and have been back and forth on getting a tune or not. The bottom line is that a good tune while using the right gas will not hurt the engine and produce a failure. Therefore, I plan to buy the Steeda High Flow elbow which bolts in to replace the stock air inlet elbow + buy Benspeed custom tunes for 91 & 93 octanes. If I have to take the car into the dealer, then I'll relace the elbow and the stock tune which would take only 30 minutes. The FRPP CAI air filtet IS a Steeda part so the elbow bolts right in. Steeda claims that with the right tune you can get 38 hp with their setup. That's 338 hp for the SGT! Also, if you need to clean your air filter in the future, you can buy the Steeda air filter cleaner kit for just $13. Other simple mods are the right one piece aluminum drive shaft (+12 RWHP hp) and underdrive pulleys (+10 HP). All these HP ratings may be overstated, but with them, you could get real close to an "effective" crank hp (noting that some of these mods only affect RWHP) rating of 350 hp for you SGT with only a few bolt on mods. I may wait until my warranty is over before I do the drive shaft and pulleys though but the elbow and tune is just to good and easy to wait for. IMO, none of these mods really affect the longevity of the engine and they are certainly safer than adding a supercharger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I agree that fighting a warranty claim like this is a lost cause. All their experts have to say is that the mod was possilby 1% contributatory to the failure and you are screwed. However, I've fussed over this and have been back and forth on getting a tune or not. The bottom line is that a good tune while using the right gas will not hurt the engine and produce a failure. Therefore, I plan to buy the Steeda High Flow elbow which bolts in to replace the stock air inlet elbow + buy Benspeed custom tunes for 91 & 93 octanes. If I have to take the car into the dealer, then I'll relace the elbow and the stock tune which would take only 30 minutes. The FRPP CAI air filtet IS a Steeda part so the elbow bolts right in. Steeda claims that with the right tune you can get 38 hp with their setup. That's 338 hp for the SGT! Also, if you need to clean your air filter in the future, you can buy the Steeda air filter cleaner kit for just $13. Other simple mods are the right one piece aluminum drive shaft (+12 RWHP hp) and underdrive pulleys (+10 HP). All these HP ratings may be overstated, but with them, you could get real close to an "effective" crank hp (noting that some of these mods only affect RWHP) rating of 350 hp for you SGT with only a few bolt on mods. I may wait until my warranty is over before I do the drive shaft and pulleys though but the elbow and tune is just to good and easy to wait for. IMO, none of these mods really affect the longevity of the engine and they are certainly safer than adding a supercharger. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattInDetroit Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I agree that fighting a warranty claim like this is a lost cause. All their experts have to say is that the mod was possilby 1% contributatory to the failure and you are screwed. However, I've fussed over this and have been back and forth on getting a tune or not. The bottom line is that a good tune while using the right gas will not hurt the engine and produce a failure. I totally agree with you! Didn't mean to seem as if I didn't. Just saying it is what it is so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshawk Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I totally agree with you! Didn't mean to seem as if I didn't. Just saying it is what it is so to speak. I was essentially agreeing with you! But I also went on a rant about my own personal struggle of whether to do some mods or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattInDetroit Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I was essentially agreeing with you! But I also went on a rant about my own personal struggle of whether to do some mods or not. I was agreeing that I knew that you were agreeing with me to agree on this. Sorry for the confusion! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reino Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 I was agreeing that I knew that you were agreeing with me to agree on this. Sorry for the confusion! :P I agree that MattChicago was agreeing with blueshawk who was agreeing with MattChicago. I also agree blueshawk went on a rant about his own struggle and agree with ilmor that is a typical legal response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 I agree that MattChicago was agreeing with blueshawk who was agreeing with MattChicago. I also agree blueshawk went on a rant about his own struggle and agree with ilmor that is a typical legal response. I would have to agree that Reino was agreeing that MattChicago was agreeing with blueshawk who was agreeing with MattChicago. I also agree blueshawk went on a rant about his own struggle and agree with ilmor that is a typical legal response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywickedshelby Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 I totally disagree!......wait, what was the question again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattInDetroit Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 I totally disagree!......wait, what was the question again? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankieboo69 Posted September 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Okay then now we all agree ,including the attorney!!!!!!!! B) So i'm still debating on doing upgrades or not and so is everyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshawk Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I would have to agree that Reino was agreeing that MattChicago was agreeing with blueshawk who was agreeing with MattChicago. I also agree blueshawk went on a rant about his own struggle and agree with ilmor that is a typical legal response. Now my head hurts! :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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