robertlane Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 According to sources at Romeo, the GT500 prototypes have been running the 4.6L DOHC engines. We have even received word that Ford is considering using the 4.6L DOHC engine in the production version of the GT500. Before the rumors spread across the web, which would be a first, I'm sure, :o I asked Ford if there was such a plan to drop the 5.4L in favor of the 4.6L. In short, no. The 5.4L will be used and the rumors of a 4.6L GT500 are not accurate. I have no reason to doubt sources that have reported seeing 4.6L DOHC engines in GT500 prototypes for one reason or another, but they will not be used in the production GT500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylan1521 Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Oh man that was close. I was just about to fire my computer across the room and head straight for the telephone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingram4868 Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 I wonder if those are the California Special cars that follow the release of the Shelby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalkid Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 I really want this car, but that would be the last straw for me. I can live with the different hood and smaller wheels, but if they go with the 4.6, I will get something else! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy23c Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 I wonder if those are the California Special cars that follow the release of the Shelby? 1060[/snapback] No, the GT/CS should be just a trim package- just like in the 60's. I could see Ford using these to tweak the 500's suspension in testing. I could see Ford using the 4.6 for another S.E. in prep: -Maybe it's a 4.6 for another upcoming S.E., and they are testing it- like a Mach 1 or Boss? -Maybe it's for a GT350--like a blown 4.6 @ 400 HP? Robert, did they indicate blown or N/A? This could give us some clues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyHorse Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 According to sources at Romeo, the GT500 prototypes have been running the 4.6L DOHC engines. We have even received word that Ford is considering using the 4.6L DOHC engine in the production version of the GT500. Before the rumors spread across the web, which would be a first, I'm sure, :o I asked Ford if there was such a plan to drop the 5.4L in favor of the 4.6L. In short, no. The 5.4L will be used and the rumors of a 4.6L GT500 are not accurate. I have no reason to doubt sources that have reported seeing 4.6L DOHC engines in GT500 prototypes for one reason or another, but they will not be used in the production GT500. 1058[/snapback] Jesus Christ....what's rumor is next? A supercharged CS4? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 According to sources at Romeo, the GT500 prototypes have been running the 4.6L DOHC engines. We have even received word that Ford is considering using the 4.6L DOHC engine in the production version of the GT500. Before the rumors spread across the web, which would be a first, I'm sure, :o I asked Ford if there was such a plan to drop the 5.4L in favor of the 4.6L. In short, no. The 5.4L will be used and the rumors of a 4.6L GT500 are not accurate. I have no reason to doubt sources that have reported seeing 4.6L DOHC engines in GT500 prototypes for one reason or another, but they will not be used in the production GT500. 1058[/snapback] The Last thing FORD needs is to take another step backwards in the direction GM currently is heading. I would have to agree that FORD is testing performance & styling clues to figure out what direction they need to go in to restore profitability to the company. The best way to do that is to use a proven product with a reputable nameplate as a starting point. If you can use one common assembly platform & make 4, 5 or 6 different cars with distinct names & price ranges for every budget, that makes sense for manufacturing & adding profitability back into the company. In this case it’s the Mustang, an American Icon in affordable sports cars. I see the following type of cars with total production reaching 160,000 a year. Mustang V-6 Coupe Mustang V-6 Convertible Mustang V-6 Coupe (Limited Edition Classic) Mustang GT 4.6L V-8 Coupe Mustang GT 4.6L V-8 Convertible Mustang 5.4L Coupe (Mach 1 Limited Edition) Mustang 5.4L Convertible (Mach 1 Limited Edition) Boss Mustang 4.6L Coupe (Limited Edition) Boss Mustang 5.4L Coupe (Limited Edition) Shelby GT-350 4.6L (Supercharged 350 H.P.) Coupe (Limited Edition) Shelby GT-350 4.6L (Supercharged 350 H.P.) Convertible (Limited Edition) Shelby GT-500 5.4L (Supercharged 450+ H.P.) Coupe (Limited Edition) Shelby GT-500 5.4L (Supercharged 450+ H.P.) Convertible (Limited Edition) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted November 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Robert, did they indicate blown or N/A? This could give us some clues... 1063[/snapback] Here's the particulars: 4.6L cast iron block, 32 valve heads, new style supercharger, 2003/2004 Cobra internals, 450 dyno-horsepower. No doubt that more Mustang variants are coming, so it may go in one of those. Of which, though, I do not know. These might even be test engines for some other purpose. It's far better to put thet kabash on these GT500 rumors for Ford rather than have everyone "up in arms" - so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amorris Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 According to sources at Romeo, the GT500 prototypes have been running the 4.6L DOHC engines. We have even received word that Ford is considering using the 4.6L DOHC engine in the production version of the GT500. Before the rumors spread across the web, which would be a first, I'm sure, :o I asked Ford if there was such a plan to drop the 5.4L in favor of the 4.6L. In short, no. The 5.4L will be used and the rumors of a 4.6L GT500 are not accurate. I have no reason to doubt sources that have reported seeing 4.6L DOHC engines in GT500 prototypes for one reason or another, but they will not be used in the production GT500. 1058[/snapback] W-H-E-W....I was half way to the Porshe dealer before I finished reading that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingram4868 Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Jesus Christ....what rumor is next? A supercharged CS4? You reminded me of my 84 SVO 4 banger. That was a fun car :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudiger Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 A 4.6L GT350 (or GT500) and a 5.4L GT500KR? Weren't some 390s installed in a few of the original GT500s? I can't remember the exact specifics but it seems like some late '67 or early '68 GT500s got the 390 after the 427 was discontinued and before the 428CJ was available in quantity (which became the GT500KR). Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy23c Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Here's the particulars: 4.6L cast iron block, 32 valve heads, new style supercharger, 2003/2004 Cobra internals, 450 dyno-horsepower. No doubt that more Mustang variants are coming, so it may go in one of those. Of which, though, I do not know. These might even be test engines for some other purpose. It's far better to put thet kabash on these GT500 rumors for Ford rather than have everyone "up in arms" - so to speak. 1071[/snapback] . I agree. This is interesting nonetheless, and I love to sleuth & speculate! Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSOLVER Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Here's the particulars: 4.6L cast iron block, 32 valve heads, new style supercharger, 2003/2004 Cobra internals, 450 dyno-horsepower. No doubt that more Mustang variants are coming, so it may go in one of those. Of which, though, I do not know. These might even be test engines for some other purpose. It's far better to put thet kabash on these GT500 rumors for Ford rather than have everyone "up in arms" - so to speak. 1071[/snapback] Up to the neck in 45k of toy payment. The thing is this ^ is the heart of the thing NOT the stripes and leather dash or decklid lettering. A cars legend is in it's performance(or lack of it). :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milstang Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 :blink: Whew, that was a close one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96DONZI Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 According to sources at Romeo, the GT500 prototypes have been running the 4.6L DOHC engines. We have even received word that Ford is considering using the 4.6L DOHC engine in the production version of the GT500. Before the rumors spread across the web, which would be a first, I'm sure, :o I asked Ford if there was such a plan to drop the 5.4L in favor of the 4.6L. In short, no. The 5.4L will be used and the rumors of a 4.6L GT500 are not accurate. I have no reason to doubt sources that have reported seeing 4.6L DOHC engines in GT500 prototypes for one reason or another, but they will not be used in the production GT500. 1058[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96DONZI Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 1338[/snapback] first of all, if anyone has ordered a Shelby thinking they will get it for the suggested price of $39,995.00, you are in for a rude awakening! I guarntee this car will be $45K-$48K by the time Ford figures out the demand for this vehicle. The test engines run on dyno have been 5.4 cast iron block engines with Ford GT heads plus the newer style S/C. the aluminum GT style blocks are very expensive to manufacture plus will have to be re-tooled for a wet-sump oiling system instead of the dry sump as found on the Ford GT. Hopefully, FRPP and Romeo are working together (yeah right) to produce a 5.4 aluminum block that can be used in the Shelby and for after market. It's easy to mistake the 4.6 and 5.4 cast iron blocks unless you are familiar with the skirting and valley gussets on the outside however versions of the S/C 4.6 have also been runnning at Romeo and Roush. time will only tell what the 4.6 version will be used for. If you want to really put a rumor out there, there have also been some S/C V10's running as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95SVTCobraVA Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 there have also been some S/C V10's running as well! Now that is extreamly interesting :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloy Dave Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 first of all, if anyone has ordered a Shelby thinking they will get it for the suggested price of $39,995.00, you are in for a rude awakening! I guarntee this car will be $45K-$48K by the time Ford figures out the demand for this vehicle. The test engines run on dyno have been 5.4 cast iron block engines with Ford GT heads plus the newer style S/C. the aluminum GT style blocks are very expensive to manufacture plus will have to be re-tooled for a wet-sump oiling system instead of the dry sump as found on the Ford GT. Hopefully, FRPP and Romeo are working together (yeah right) to produce a 5.4 aluminum block that can be used in the Shelby and for after market. It's easy to mistake the 4.6 and 5.4 cast iron blocks unless you are familiar with the skirting and valley gussets on the outside however versions of the S/C 4.6 have also been runnning at Romeo and Roush. time will only tell what the 4.6 version will be used for. If you want to really put a rumor out there, there have also been some S/C V10's running as well! Well, we didn't get the aluminum block, but then we didn't get a $45-48k base price either (unless you are talking vert). What about that V10? :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 WTF?? Are you going back to find all these old threads? I should ask why you are! Why are you doing this? Have you started drinking so early? :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 WTF?? Are you going back to find all these old threads? I should ask why you are! Why are you doing this? Have you started drinking so early? :happy feet: This is what is called the late stages of PSDS. I read about it in the Dictionary. Once fully developed the afflicted one loses all common since untill the cure has been made available. If not cured with in a year or so, the afflicted one will go insane. :wacko: BoneDoc: Please confirm. My credibility is on the line here. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnut Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Someone has definitely gone over the edge here But since such a long period of this insanity has occured, I would guess there is no longer a cure available. Next will come stories of working side by side with Henry Ford himself, inventing the production line, the first person to come up with a color other than black and last but not least, invention of the modern V-8 engine. If he starts talkiing about being at the battle of Bunker Hill, its time to call the men in the little white jackets. :tease: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Someone has definitely gone over the edge here But since such a long period of this insanity has occured, I would guess there is no longer a cure available. Next will come stories of working side by side with Henry Ford himself, inventing the production line, the first person to come up with a color other than black and last but not least, invention of the modern V-8 engine. If he starts talkiing about being at the battle of Bunker Hill, its time to call the men in the little white jackets. :tease: So you think it's to late to save Dave What do you think will happen to his car If Terry does not want it, we could probally find a buyer on this site for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnut Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Yeah, Could probably split the ADM up, say with the top 10 posters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Yeah, Could probably split the ADM up, say with the top 10 posters? I think we need to look at this as Ruf would say "Vewy, Vewy carefully". I suggest that a lottery system be set up so everyone has a fair shot at getting this car. As for the ADM, I think the state will pick it up. You know that is the least the state could do since he will be mopping floors for the rest of his life. :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnut Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 :tease: Sounds fair to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I think we need to look at this as Ruf would say "Vewy, Vewy carefully". I suggest that a lottery system be set up so everyone has a fair shot at getting this car. As for the ADM, I think the state will pick it up. You know that is the least the state could do since he will be mopping floors for the rest of his life. :ninja: I would rather raffle the car off & have all proceeds go to help pay Daves medical cost to make him right again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnut Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I would rather raffle the car off & have all proceeds go to help pay Daves medical cost to make him right again I suppose your right, the lottery thing was a little selfish. But do you think there is enough money in whole world that would help Dave> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I suppose your right, the lottery thing was a little selfish. But do you think there is enough money in whole world that would help Dave> Guys, hes got insurance to cover the medical stuff. Now about his car........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloy Dave Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Da dada daaaaa.....Shelbymannnnnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcle Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 There has been a lot of empty promises from both Ford and the Stealerships. All I can say is this is bull SH@#. Calling all good honest dealers give me a call I will pay sticker price now wait till Dec. that offer will be 2K under sticker suckers. Oh and thanks for Pi$$ing in my Froot Loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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