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PART # M-2007 FR1SVT gets you the cai and tune with mufflers and oil filter. Parts sold seperate mufflers (M5230-svt1) cai kit with tune (M-9603 svt07)

sorry if this has been covered already.

 

Just installed this kit a few days ago. Ford says it's the same package they are putting on the KR. Throttle is even more responsive and the extra power is great. I noticed it's even better with the cool weather we saw today. The exhaust sounds and looks great as well. It's 50 state legal, so if you're looking for something to scare the old people you may want to opt for an aftermarket exhaust.

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Just installed this kit a few days ago. Ford says it's the same package they are putting on the KR. Throttle is even more responsive and the extra power is great. I noticed it's even better with the cool weather we saw today. The exhaust sounds and looks great as well. It's 50 state legal, so if you're looking for something to scare the old people you may want to opt for an aftermarket exhaust.

 

 

I can confirm that this is a nice package!

 

 

I wonder if it makes it any faster? :headscratch:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

J/K Gary!! :hysterical2::hysterical2:

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thats not the correct number for the mufflers only.

 

But anywho, I wonder if the FRPP CAI can get you as much hp as the JLT with a custom tune.

 

Part of me wishes I had gotten the FRPP CAI to stick with ford parts to eventually have a KR of my own or at least keep ford stuff for warranty issues and you know gt500s with only ford and shelby parts will be worth more in the future as well if you sell it some day

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thats not the correct number for the mufflers only.

 

But anywho, I wonder if the FRPP CAI can get you as much hp as the JLT with a custom tune.

 

Part of me wishes I had gotten the FRPP CAI to stick with ford parts to eventually have a KR of my own or at least keep ford stuff for warranty issues and you know gt500s with only ford and shelby parts will be worth more in the future as well if you sell it some day

 

Hi, Chuck ...dunno for sure, but I'd guess the FRP-CAI/tune might get you 40-45HP whereas the JLT-CAI/tune seems to give 65-85 (from dynos we've seen). The JLT will also support MUCH more HP if you plan to go further in the future (800+?)

 

Still, I can understand an attraction to Ford parts. Warranty-wise, I don't think it matters much. Possibly there might be some resale difference, but that could go either way, imo. Either way, they're certainly easy parts to swap out if you sell.

 

While FRP pieces often carry their own warranty for a year (as some other aftermarket pieces do) the FRP Ford-warranty preservation deal (on those parts that are eligible) now only applies to FRP parts added to a new Ford by a Ford dealer, I beleive ... there was a change in the FRP warranty to this effect several weeks ago -- it's posted in a PDF on the FRP website. I posted a link to it from in here somewhere but can't remember exactly where.

 

Dan

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Would love to hear more opinions with regards to the pros and cons of the FRPP package and the JLT CAI / Tune. My first mod is going to be CAI and tune. Then exhaust (axle backs). With all the great things I've heard about the JLT CAI and EVO tunes, doesn't seem like this will be better, but will it be nearly as good? Taking into consideration I'm not going for 800HP (wouldn't mind 600+ though), but would just like to open the car up more to its potential.

 

Appreciate any and all insights.

 

Rob

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I read the CARB exemption for the new FRPP CAI. The certificate was issued to ROUSH Industries and the certificate states that a new 113mm MAF and open filter is permitted as part of the kit but the kit can not recommend any tuning to the OEM system.

 

So I guess this means you get a CAI that is calibrated by a new MAF but you do not get a new tune. Doesn't this sound something like what Big Daddy was working on?

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Rob , I went with the EVO stage 2 and FRPP axle back's .I couldnt be happier.It Is not the same car . You wont be let down!!

Yeah but the nice thing about this package is Ford installs it and the warranty is still valid so you don't have to remove everything when you take it in.

 

My .02

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I read the CARB exemption for the new FRPP CAI. The certificate was issued to ROUSH Industries and the certificate states that a new 113mm MAF and open filter is permitted as part of the kit but the kit can not recommend any tuning to the OEM system.

 

So I guess this means you get a CAI that is calibrated by a new MAF but you do not get a new tune. Doesn't this sound something like what Big Daddy was working on?

I recently purchased the FRPP CAI and tune. I installed it msyelf in about 45-minutes. The Pro Cal flash tuner with performance tune is shipped to you separately. I have not dynoed since install but can say the performance gains are very notable. Throttle response is greatly improved. Very happy with the perofrmance and looks!!

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I recently purchased the FRPP CAI and tune. I installed it msyelf in about 45-minutes. The Pro Cal flash tuner with performance tune is shipped to you separately. I have not dynoed since install but can say the performance gains are very notable. Throttle response is greatly improved. Very happy with the perofrmance and looks!!

 

 

Does anybody else know (who has one) if the JLT intake / EVO tune combo drastically improves throttle response also? Increased throttle response is something this car needs.

 

I would be interested to know how any stage 1 JLT / EVO combos feel.

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Does anybody else know (who has one) if the JLT intake / EVO tune combo drastically improves throttle response also? Increased throttle response is something this car needs.

 

I would be interested to know how any stage 1 JLT / EVO combos feel.

I don't have one, but there does seem to be a concensus that the JLT / EVO combo does dramatically increase throttle response. Also, the JLT / EVO combo has #s behind them with respect to HP gains (70 - 90 RWHP approximately??). I think I read Ford is claiming about 40 - 45 HP (assume RWHP??) gains.

 

Does anyone have any pics of the FRPP CAI installed?

 

Thanks all for the responses so far.

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Here is the FRPP warranty PDF.

 

Thanks for this Chuck. Just did a quick read, and if I'm reading it correctly, it doesn't look like using FRPP parts vs. JLT/Steeda/etc is going to help with engine or drivetrain warranty claims. It states:

 

"The use of Ford Racing parts and components is likely to increase horsepower which may cause damage to the vehicle driveline and adversely affect other performance characteristics. Such damage is the sole responsibility of the consumer and is not covered by this Limited Warranty. Consumers are solely and completely responsible for evaluating their vehicle to ensure that the vehicle, and each part of that vehicle, is appropriate for this Ford Racing part or component. It is the consumer's sole responsibility to have the performance enhancement parts properly installed on their vehicle along with any modifications that are necessary for the proper performance of the vehicle."

 

I take this to mean that if you go with the FRPP CAI and tune and you suffer drivetrain damage, Ford can refuse to fix it under warranty if they can show it was caused by the CAI or tune. This would be the same with any other CAI and tune, no? Or do you think Ford will still repair under warranty because they were FRPP parts that "caused" the problem???

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I don't have one, but there does seem to be a concensus that the JLT / EVO combo does dramatically increase throttle response. Also, the JLT / EVO combo has #s behind them with respect to HP gains (70 - 90 RWHP approximately??). I think I read Ford is claiming about 40 - 45 HP (assume RWHP??) gains.

 

Does anyone have any pics of the FRPP CAI installed?

 

Thanks all for the responses so far.

I have some pics. I'll post tonight when I get home.

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Here is what I found, I think this is it.

 

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9880

I called FRPP for the part # and then had Sanderson Ford in Glendale, AZ order it for me. I paid $745.00 for the CAI kit and Pro cal tuner. You have to register the part on the FRPP website, and then enter a voucher # given to you to have them ship you the Pro Cal tuner. You'll need the PCM # ( Removal of PCM required) and VIN. Not a big deal all in all. Oh, it comes with a very nice blue air filter. Looks great on my Vista Blue with white stripes.

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For those who have already installed this will you be dyno testing? I'm really curious how the AF ratio turns out. Our sponsoring tuners have already found that the Steeda kit, the K&N kit and even the stock OEM tune tend to run lean during dyno testing. We will have to see how this new FRPP kit does.

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I don't have one, but there does seem to be a concensus that the JLT / EVO combo does dramatically increase throttle response. Also, the JLT / EVO combo has #s behind them with respect to HP gains (70 - 90 RWHP approximately??). I think I read Ford is claiming about 40 - 45 HP (assume RWHP??) gains.

 

Does anyone have any pics of the FRPP CAI installed?

 

Thanks all for the responses so far.

Here are a couple picks of the FRPP CAI installed.

 

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I don't have one, but there does seem to be a concensus that the JLT / EVO combo does dramatically increase throttle response. Also, the JLT / EVO combo has #s behind them with respect to HP gains (70 - 90 RWHP approximately??). I think I read Ford is claiming about 40 - 45 HP (assume RWHP??) gains.

 

Does anyone have any pics of the FRPP CAI installed?

 

Thanks all for the responses so far.

 

 

Here are some pics of mine installed on my Vista Blue GT500. I went with the FRPP for warranty mainly. The kit with the axle back exhaust is M-2007-FR1SVT. It is designed specifically for the GT500 so I think Ford will have a hard time denying warranty if it causes a failure. I let the dealer install it for a little extra insurance even though it's an easy install to do yourself. That way their dealer installed it and it's their parts tested for this vehicle. :shrug:

 

I'm still interested in adding more power and may do so before the warranty ends anyway. I'll have to figure out if there is a smaller pulley and tune option that will work with this setup. If not, I may have to switch everything over to JLT or Steeda when the warranty is gone. :spend:

 

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Just curious what perceived warranty benefit there is. As far as Ford Motor Company and your Ford dealer is concerned, warranty-wise FRP aftermarket products are treated under Ford policy exactly the same as any other aftermarket product, imo. (i.e. if it caused the problem the Ford warranty is voided.)

 

Don't confuse the FRP 12-month part warranty (which changed recently) with Ford's vehicle warranty.

 

Even for those parts that FRP has gotten certified with Ford Motor Company and which are covered for 12-months by FRP and under the Ford vehicle warranty, the Ford portion is only valid if the part was installed on a NEW Ford vehicle by a Ford DEALER.

 

So effectively, and sadly, I don't see any warranty benefit to the FRP parts to an owner of an existing (vs new) vehicle over any other aftermarket piece that gives a 12-month warranty on the part alone (like FRP) where applicable.

 

The FRP warranty changed just a few weeks ago to the new wording (NEW Ford vehicle by Ford DEALER for qualified products). There's a PDF of the revised warranty on the FRP website.

 

Still, Ford dealers may somehow look more favorably on FRP parts, but when push comes to shove, Ford's warranty treats all aftermarket parts that are not specifically certified (very few FRP parts for a very limited period) the same.

 

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Btw, that CAI looks real good! ...nice pix, thanks!

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$16K.

 

Of course for me I'd then need to factor in attorney fees. Child support. Alimony. 1/2 my assets.

 

= one very expensive mod. :hysterical:

 

Exactly!! It's now a 7 figure engine I'm sure. :hysterical: Hell, I'm getting flak for little things like a Cobra power plug, I can't imagine the conversation about a new engine. Me: "Hey honey, I just need a little repair work done on the Shelby. Wife: What now?! Me: Oh nothing major, just needs a new engine." Wife: :finger:

 

Thanks for the compliment 68fastback. Now if I could just get budget approval on a Roush SC, that would look even better under the hood! :happy feet:

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